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LiquorandGunFun said:
Titanfall looks and runs fine on xbo. plus $150 isnt all you need, you need all the shit to go with it, motherboard, ram, power supply, computer case, cpu, etc.

Its no secret PC is more powerful than the new consoles. This is Nvidia trolling since they are shit leopards about amd shit being used in the consoles.


Nvidia didnt say shit about anything to do with the comparisons, that would be gamespot, might wanna use the ironsights on that rage fella.



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Blood_Tears said:


Looking at the numbers on the front page says otherwise. QB like AW will not move systems. Alan Wake had a hell a lot more hype and no one bought it. H5 can't carry the whole console on its shoulders.

So QB is officially Alan Wake 3. And what numbers on the front page you're talking about?



Goatseye said:
Blood_Tears said:
 


Looking at the numbers on the front page says otherwise. QB like AW will not move systems. Alan Wake had a hell a lot more hype and no one bought it. H5 can't carry the whole console on its shoulders.

So QB is officially Alan Wake 3. And what numbers on the front page you're talking about?


The title of this thread isn't  "Validate your purchase of an Xbox One".



Mowco said:


The title of this thread isn't  "Validate your purchase of an Xbox One".

Really... why is that?



Goatseye said:
Mowco said:
 


The title of this thread isn't  "Validate your purchase of an Xbox One".

Really... why is that?


Don't know, sounds like a good thread idea someone should make it.



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Yup, I'm still not sure why people are excited at all for this gen.



Spazzy_D said:
Yup, I'm still not sure why people are excited at all for this gen.

What do you game on?



Spazzy_D said:
Yup, I'm still not sure why people are excited at all for this gen.


The good games are on there way. I'm sure the likes of Halo 5 and Uncharted 4 will blow our minds... and... erm.... Smash Bros U maybe?



kowenicki said:
Blood_Tears said:
Goatseye said:
whatever said:
 

X1 needs a lot more than that.

Not really...


Looking at the numbers on the front page says otherwise. QB like AW will not move systems. Alan Wake had a hell a lot more hype and no one bought it. H5 can't carry the whole console on its shoulders.

"Nobody" being 1.25m at retail plus whatever digital?

Gotcha.

Yes for the hype AW and the X360 install base, that's nobody. A game like Beyond Two Souls is considered a dud but it's still selling better than AW ever did. 800k of those sales were the first year. Gamestop dropped the price on it a month after it released. Then the other 400k of "retail" sales were from the last 3 years where the legs were horrible and was 15 dollars in a bin. And your digital sales?  AW wasn't offered as a digital download title prior to November 5th, 2010 when it was bundled in the Holiday X360 Sku with a downloadable voucher. The same holiday season that had the new S X360 sku plus the Kinect effect. MS sold a lot of 360's that year and a lot of them came with a piece of paper with that AW code on it. Don't get me wrong, I bought the game on day 1 for my 360 and I thought it was great but i will not defend it's sales, it was hyped and when it came,  it didn't deliver the sales that MS wanted. So yes, 1.25M is nobody to me on that budget over how many years of dev time, 4-5?    It's a dud like so many others released this past gen on either system.



BenVTrigger said:


Yep in comparison to PC's at the same time as launch this has been one of the smallest jumps in power of any gen. I really hope were only looking at a 4-5 year console cycle this time.

Please read this:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=178737

I am a bit surprised with the way that people are underwhelmed by the jump. I believe more to do with the diminishing returns to the perception of performance, rather than the actual technical achievement. Because I see that the jump is as big as it has always been, if not bigger... Such claims arise especially because of a much easier comparison to the PC architecture this time around instead of propriety and mystical designs, which are harder to prove otherwise. Let's remember that compared to the 7th Generation console designs, the vast majority of developers are relatively much happier this time around, and the technicalities aside, the PC ports to the next-gen consoles look relatively way better without serious sacrificies.

 

In short, the next gen consoles (or at least PS4) is not weak at all but more than capable, because...

 

a) Those Consoles come with octo-core processors, which is well beyond the main stream pc with dual core. It's true that those cores have relatively poor single thread performance but with the sufficient level of parallelism and low level calls, CPUs had never been this fast in relative terms (compared to PCs). So the CPU performance will never be an issue. Also keep in mind that the CPU performance improvements have slowed tremendously at the last decade.

b) The amount of RAM (8 GB) is well beyond the main stream PC (4-6 GB) today, which had never happened. Most games are not even programmed to run on more than 3 GB, and this is the first time in history, where the console ports don't have to be downsized at all. In comparison, 1 GB was the mainstream RAM when the 7th Gen consoles arrived with only 1/2 RAM including the graphics, and 128 MB was the mainstream when PS2 arrived with 32 MB! Also today we have so much RAM on our PCs that the capacity increases came to a crawl.

c) 500 GB, although still may be not much for today's games, is relatively abundant compared to the debut with the 7th Gen. consoles.

d) The GPU seems to be archiles heel, at least with the XB1. However, it's unfair to the PS4 as it seems to be just fine with 1080p and up to 60 fps. We know that the graphics will improve over time, squeezing either better graphics or more stable performance. Given that most TVs today are not capable of producing resolutions greater than 1080p, there really is no point in putting a higher GPU than what PS4 has over the long run.

e) PS4 employs a super fast GDDR5, equivalent to the PC tech, but just much more of it. Games, which are not designed with this in mind will not magically look better, but they will come in time. Couple this with many exciting technologies, none of which has been implemented yet, which are more likely to see on consoles than on the PC.


In short, PS4 is the most balanced machine out there for the long term, and is more than capable to serve as long as PS3 did. XB1, on the other hand, although similar, is crippled by its inefficient design, with respect to the RAM Bandwidth. If only XB1 had incorporated GDDR5 instead of DDR3 + ESRAM (or at least a DDR3+GDDR5 solution similar to PS3), ditching the Kinect, things would be much rosier for it now.

 



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Regional Analysis  (only MS and Sony Consoles)
Europe     => XB1 : 23-24 % vs PS4 : 76-77%
N. America => XB1 :  49-52% vs PS4 : 48-51%
Global     => XB1 :  32-34% vs PS4 : 66-68%

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