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allblue said:
BeElite said:
allblue said:
Wow, 4 months into release and people are already celebrating. X1 is selling on its own overcoming both that initial negative back lash and $100 gap to boot. There's titanfall, Gears, Halo and others megahit franchises MS can get its hand on with their deep pockets.

X1 can still beat PS4, one generation is a long time.


yahh becasue PS4 will not get UC4 TLOS2 GOW GT7 and all the other sony exclusioves and superior 3rd partys.

X1 lost the war, its a matter of how respectable a figth it can put up now.

I'm not even an xbox fan and I can tell how arrogant you are sounding right now. How big are Uncharted, TLOS, GoW as franchises compared to Halo, Gears etc? Heck One Halo entry outsold all the sony exclusive titles put together if I recall the numbers correctly. 

GT is as big as Halo,Uncharted 3 outsell Gears of war 3 and since ps4 is more popular then ps3  i think Uncharted 4 will outsell any Gear of war game,the last of us look as big as Uncharted .

Infamous is bigger then ever in ps4 and by looking to The order pre order it look like this games will be big even bigger then Titanfall.



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

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zhao3gold said:
Still too early to tell. The insane sales of PS2 covers both hardcore gamers plus causals who only play Singstar/Buzz/Guitar Hero. Now more than 50% causal are gone. And more and more new kinds of entertainments came to the word. I doubt PS4 will reach PS2 level. Let us just see if PS4 can reach to PS3.

Singstar/buzz are not big if you compare them with other casuals games the best selling buzz and singstar sold less then 2 millions.

Majority of ps2 gamers are hardcore i doubt they are more then 10 millions  casuals on ps2



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

PS4 will not dominate like PS2 did. Xbox is now a household brand/name in the USA. PS4 did double Xbox One in sales this January but that doesn't mean that it will stick that way forever. If by using that logic than the 360 would have blown PS3 out, PS3 outsold xbox. There are around 40 million 360s in the states, and majority of those haven't converted to the new gen and won't for awhile. Granted, there are a ton of ps3 users that havent converted as well.

I feel that Xbox 360 users won't convert to next gen for awhile because there is no reason to. The majority of xbox 360 users bought a 360 because of online gaming. Playstation users got their hardware because it was better and faster. Ps4 offers better specs than any other console, xbox one features upgraded specs from the 360 which isn not a reason why any xbox 360 user would convert. They want a better xbox live experience compared to the 360, because there is no point in buying the One for hardware when xbox live was why we got a 360.

Or it could be a conspiracy :3 Sony's second console performs amazingly, microsoft's second consple lerfroms amazingly. Sony's third console not so well, Microsoft's console not so well. Concidence? I think not.

In all seriousness, I'll be buying the One as soon as Halo 5 is released (don't care for price of console. Paid $600 for my ps3 and sold it a half year later)



I don't think the PS4 will dominate that much, unless the Xbox One All In One Entertainment System On Input One has a major crumble it will not be PS4 outselling the all the competition almost 3 to 1...

Mind you, I have a PS4 and never owned a PS2 back then... I do see some serious benefits to this situation, like on the tablet market, the smaller studios can afford to miss out on the sales on the smaller/more complet platforms so there is more concentration all going to the same place (you also save by not having to buy 2 systems to get everything significant).

Only the losers lose.



In no way do I expect it to reach PS2-level sales. XB1 may even reach surpass 360 when all is said and done. Nintendo might pull a miracle out of their ass... I suppose. :P There may be domination, but I doubt it'll ever get that bad.



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allblue said:
Wow, 4 months into release and people are already celebrating. X1 is selling on its own overcoming both that initial negative back lash and $100 gap to boot. There's titanfall, Gears, Halo and others megahit franchises MS can get its hand on with their deep pockets.

X1 can still beat PS4, one generation is a long time.


it cant beat the PS4 unless there is some GTA type exclusive on XB1. Now I do agree that calling a "blow out" is too early, calling a safe win I can see but I definity think it is too early to call 70%+ market share type win yet.



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

PS2 could play DVD movies and at the time it was a great selling point since DVD players were expensive.

PS4 doesn´t have much to it nowadays compared to the PS2 back then.



did someone really say that the ps4 will launch at half of wii u's numbers in japan? LMAO



 

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Zucas said:
BeElite said:
SamuelRSmith said:
How short people's memories are.


Might want to look at the context of it all as same can be clamied about you, X1 is not PS3 it has none of the advantages and benefits PS3 had.  Nor Did PS3 face such strong direct competitior as X1 is facing.  People need to get over PS3s recovery, X1 does not have similar circumstances that would make that as likely a reality.

Nothing stated in this post is correct haha.  Xbox One has plenty of advantages and benefits.  The obvious one is Kinect and another one would be Xbox Live.  Both of which were key to 360's success and can be a key to success for the X1 if marketed properly.  And yes PS3 faced as strong as a direct competitor as Xbox One is.  Really not even sure how this argument can actually be vocalized.  The competition of the past generation may have been the most fierce in the game industry since SNES and Genesis days.  

No in actuallity, SamuelRSmith's post may have been the most appropriate for this thread.  The main point being, let's give it more than a few months before we claim the world.

Cant handle reality.  Its ok PS4 dommination has had that effect on many people on here.

It has none, kinetic has already proven to be a weakness.  And many would take PSn+ over live though it could be argued to no end.

And in no way was 360 as strong a competitior to the PS3 as PS4 is to the X1, yes it was fierce showing them a somewhat even match.  The way PS4 is killing its comp shows X1 is no firce competition at all like there was last gen.   Its under powered over priced with inferior 3rd party games and lesser 1st party, and those are just facts. 

X1 does not have Japan a few crazy Euro nations and massive world wide distribution to fall back on doring tough times like PS3 did, Its losing in EVERY market in the world.  PS3 never reached such dire times.

Heres the thing with more time, as it goes PS4 dominates more and more in case you havent noticed.   So unless a price cut happens for X1, time will only make matters worse.  Its a inferior product at a higher price, it does not get any simpler to expalin why PS4 is kicking the shit out of it world wide.  Untill thats rectifed it will continue and will only get worse. 

 



PS4 look like the clear winner this gen, but dominate like the PS2!! I don't see that happening at all.