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Munkeh111 said:
Nope

I checked Amazon UK with no luck. GAME seem to have bundles, but they're doing some dodgy advertising. Their homepage displays two images side by side. One advertised Xbox One + 1 game for £449 (a £25 saving) and the other advertises a PS4 + 1 game for £429.99. To me, this implies that a PS4 game is worth £80? In fact, you get a PS+ subscription with the PS4

I would claim that there is some grand conspiracy here, but given that the Xbox One bundles are also mostly sold out, I think it's just a small amount of misleading advertising

Yeah when I got mine went into the shop intending to buy the game separate because of what they where saying on the website but they sold me it with the game for £384 so wierd what they are saying on the website.



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The Fury said:
Munkeh111 said:
GAME seem to have bundles, but they're doing some dodgy advertising. Their homepage displays two images side by side. One advertised Xbox One + 1 game for £449 (a £25 saving) and the other advertises a PS4 + 1 game for £429.99. To me, this implies that a PS4 game is worth £80? In fact, you get a PS+ subscription with the PS4

Something is odd in GAME at the moment anyway, went in yesterday, FIFA14 on PS4 £54.99. On Xbox One £44.99. Then some games are actually RRP, £60 for a PS4 or Xbox One game? Absolute joke.

I'm not sure what is going on this new generation but the high street shops are not conforming to what they are supposed to do, that is £10 under RRP because games are too expensive already. Their online store is at least pricematching other places else what's the point of buying from them at all? I'm unlikely to buy a full priced game this generation, I can see that now.

 

Oh on subject, they had a few PS4s in store the other day... well the piece of paper outside said it did anyway probably gone now but with the Japanese launch coming up, I would expect there supply to be tight.

I've also noticed strange things like that. I'm not going to stop buying games at launch since I have no patience, but given we already pay more than America, it doesn't seem entirely fair does it...

I basically just assumed that prices would fall and they have, but only to £45 from £50. Still a little high for my taste, which is why I'm waiting to pre-order inFamous



Munkeh111 said:

I've also noticed strange things like that. I'm not going to stop buying games at launch since I have no patience, but given we already pay more than America, it doesn't seem entirely fair does it...

I basically just assumed that prices would fall and they have, but only to £45 from £50. Still a little high for my taste, which is why I'm waiting to pre-order inFamous

Good deals is the key, that along side amazon price matching, hopefully I'll use the 2 to my advantage when I do get a PS4 and Dragon Age. 360/PS3 games got to the point where if you wait 3 or 4 weeks the game would be sub £30 subs £25 even. This is my range. At the moment though lack of choice and demand is keeping prices high, maybe next january we'll see true deals.



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The Fury said:
Munkeh111 said:

I've also noticed strange things like that. I'm not going to stop buying games at launch since I have no patience, but given we already pay more than America, it doesn't seem entirely fair does it...

I basically just assumed that prices would fall and they have, but only to £45 from £50. Still a little high for my taste, which is why I'm waiting to pre-order inFamous

Good deals is the key, that along side amazon price matching, hopefully I'll use the 2 to my advantage when I do get a PS4 and Dragon Age. 360/PS3 games got to the point where if you wait 3 or 4 weeks the game would be sub £30 subs £25 even. This is my range. At the moment though lack of choice and demand is keeping prices high, maybe next january we'll see true deals.

PS+ is the other option, but that is probably more limiting (and more worth it if you have a Vita as well). I think it will be a few years before you can get PS4 games that cheap that soon after launch, but hopefully by next year they at least start at £40



Apparently Sony said at there media conference yesterday, that its still selling out world wide, so there still selling everything they can make.



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Crazy part is I've never seen them in stock anywhere. I'm waiting to purchase one but everywhere I go I only see X1s. Sony always seems to be ill-prepared... for everything!



binary solo said:

Just don't be misled by all this high demand. It is a short term thing. We live in a console age where front loaded sales is the norm, and this will also apply to PS4. AND last gen was so long that there is much more pent up demand this time than there has been for the start of previous generations. People who bought PS3 in 2006/7/8 are all ready and willing to buy a new console. Whereas in the past only people who bought in the first year or 18 months were ready to buy a new console in the launch period.

Demand will taper off fast once all that early gen craziness has worked itself out. Just like Wii was a fad that went on for a quite a while, PS4 demand is also a fad, of sorts, that will fade.

PS4 will not outsell PS3 lifetime. Growth in the console market is a myth, it's gonna shrink this gen.

Having said that, current numbers are still impressive and I will enjoy them while they last.

But...the Wii was supply constrained for from launch til March/April 2008 (and the PS4 is tracking above Wii numbers). And it was only called a fad because it's appeal was waggle, not necessarily the games (otherwise the GC and 64 would have sold similar numbers). PS4 isn't about the gimmick of motion controls. It's about games, and just like the PS3 before it, it may not have 18 blockbusters at launch, but people know that those games will come (aligned launches, PS3 > 360 year to year). And now being the cheapest option with that same appeal as before, of course the numbers aren't gonna do anything but go up.

And how is the market shrinking? Gen 6 saw about 205M, IIRC, consoles sold (150M PS2, 25M Xbox, 20M GC, and 10M DC). Gen 7 is currently at 260M (100M Wii, 80M PS3, and 80M 360), with potential to grow even more since the PS3 is still selling relatively well being an almost 7 year old console. So how is growth in the console market a myth?

I generally agree with many things you say here, but I think you're just flat out wrong right now



Why are these threads still being made. Isn't it obvious that Sony just didn't make enough units.

Any time XBO sells out (Game a few days ago) it gets restocked quickly as Game now has pretty much all of the XBO bundles in stock.

Any time a PS4 bundle sells out, it can take up to a week, even more to restock it.



BenVTrigger said:
Ive commented on this in several threads. Sony currently still certainly can't meet demand in NA

Seems like neither EU...

Amazon UK is selling PS4 "In stock on March 11, 2014"... that's means they expect to receive a new batch of consoles just in March 11st... crazy.



GribbleGrunger said:

I don't think we will actually. Once Sony stop stocking for Japan, they'll spread more consoles to the West.

I didn't checked other places but Amazon UK is listing PS4 "In stock on March 11, 2014".