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Forums - Sales Discussion - UK sales MASSIVELY overtracked over the last couple years?!?

So, a couple days ago we had a thread about this article about the 2013 hardware sales in the UK. The data from that article didn't line up very well with vgchartz numbers at all, especially with hardware numbers actually being 5% up instead of 16% down as vgchartz shows it.

I then looked around the net and sure enough I found more than enough evidence indicating that the UK is way overtracked here.

1. October 2012 the PS3 reached 5 mil in the UK. At this point vgchartz had the PS3 close to 5.3 mil

2. June 2013 the 360 was close to outsell the Wii with 8.4 mil units in the UK. Vgchartz at that point: 360 at 8.95 mil and the Wii at 8.7 mil

Ok, the UK numbers are overtracked, good to know but what are the real numbers? That's the great thing, we have pretty much all the things we need to quite accurately say what the 2012 and 2013 numbers really are.

We know what the PS4 and X1 sold in 2013: 530k and 364k

We know thanks to the original article, how much every console was down/up:

  1. 3DS (including 2DS, XL) - up 4 per cent
  2. Xbox 360 - down 30.7 per cent
  3. PS4
  4. PS3 - down 31 per cent
  5. Xbox One
  6. Vita - down 41 per cent
  7. Wii U - up 41.5 per cent
  8. Wii - down 72 per cent

that the sales overall were up 5%, what outsold what and that the PS4+X1 made up about 1/3 of all hardware sales of 2013

We know thanks to Nintendo and Neogaf what the market share in 2012 was:

Percent
3DS 23.13
NDS 2.8
WII 7.09
WIU 3.17
PSP 2.61
PSV 10.07
PS3 22.39
360 28.54

And now the important one, we know that the 360 outsold the PS4, but that it was very close. 

This means the 360 this year sold more than but close to 530k units. From this we can make a very close assumption about last and this years sales, for this I will now assume that the 360 sold 535k this year (important! this is an educated guess, but still not necessarily 100% correct)

From these 535k 360s sold, the 30,7% it dropped in 2013 and the 2012 market share, we get these rounded hardware numbers for 2012:

  "real" Numbers Vgchartz Difference
X360 772,000 1,140,000

+368,000

3DS 626,000 900,000 +274,000
PS3 606,000 868,000 +262,000
Wii 192,000 292,000 +100,000
PSV 272,000 288,000 +16,000
PSP 71,000 132,000 +61,000
DS 76,000 102,000 +26,000
Wii U 86,000 97,000 +11,000
Overall 2,700,000 3,819,000 +1,119,000

From this it's easy to get 2013 numbers:

  "real" Numbers Vgchartz Difference
3DS 651,000 737,000 +86,000
X360 535,000 563,000 +28,000
PS4 530,000 531,000 +1,000
PS3 418,000 494,000 +76,000
XOne 364,000 369,000 +5,000
PSV 160,000 149,000 -11,000
WiiU 120,000 128,000 +8,000
Wii 54,000 81,000 +27,000
PSP - 26,000 -
DS - 14,000 -
Overall 2,832,000 3,092,000 220,000

Unfortunately I haven't been able to find a market share table for 2011, so I couldn't figure out what each system sold then, but thanks to this article, I am able to assume that all console together sold about 4,036,000 units, compared to Vgchartz' 5,300,000.

The best thing about my "real" numbers is that they all work out. The order of the consoles is right, consoles are up 5% in 2013 and the PS4+X1 make up about 1/3 of all consoles sold (about 31,5%).

So what do you think? Did I make a mistake somewhere or do my numbers sound reasonable?



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Good work, most productive. I hope more people sees this and it's taken on board.



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

just posting here out of interest..



 

Face the future.. Gamecenter ID: nikkom_nl (oh no he didn't!!) 

marking to check this later



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We should lit the ioi-signal for him to notice:



 

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Nice work!

Thats probably mean that Xbox 360 is 400k undertracked in countries other than US, UK and Japan, which is a good thing.



NiKKoM said:

We should lit the ioi-signal for him to notice:


That's not how you summon ioi.  There's a trigger word.  And I'm not saying it.



Kresnik said:
NiKKoM said:

We should lit the ioi-signal for him to notice:


That's not how you summon ioi.  There's a trigger word.  And I'm not saying it.

i'll give a hint : .... deserved to lose



 "I think people should define the word crap" - Kirby007

Join the Prediction League http://www.vgchartz.com/predictions

Instead of seeking to convince others, we can be open to changing our own minds, and seek out information that contradicts our own steadfast point of view. Maybe it’ll turn out that those who disagree with you actually have a solid grasp of the facts. There’s a slight possibility that, after all, you’re the one who’s wrong.

kirby007 said:
Kresnik said:
NiKKoM said:

We should lit the ioi-signal for him to notice:


That's not how you summon ioi.  There's a trigger word.  And I'm not saying it.

i'll give a hint : .... deserved to lose





 

Face the future.. Gamecenter ID: nikkom_nl (oh no he didn't!!) 

kirby007 said:

i'll give a hint : .... deserved to lose


Nope, not that.

I'm not playing the hint game with you.  That wouldn't be very wise.