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All these articles about XB One  dominating Black Friday reference an InfoScout report. Sounds like they arent really the most reliable method to claim XB One is dominating.

"But then you have this little Black Friday sales story making the rounds, which suggests the Xbox One won Black Friday at U.S. retail, and by a significant margin. It comes from InfoScout, a beta startup that launched last year and claims it can track Black Friday sales in real time.

Before we go over the numbers, a word on InfoScout's methods, which sound a little like a page from a voodoo cookbook: a roux of "computer vision & crowdsourcing ... natural language processing & machine learning ... social media & big data analytics" and apps that encourage customers to voluntarily snap pictures of receipts in trade for cash- or charity-related incentives; this, says InfoScout, lets the company provide "a nationally projectable sample of American shopping behavior." But survey methodology is tricky business, and sometime what sounds like voodoo isn't voodoo at all.

Without getting too much into the weeds here, the word you want to pay attention to in that last quote is "projectable," which means something very different from "representative." Since InfoScout's survey results are based on voluntary data (provided by a subset of the population with the sort of technology necessary to furnish said data), they're not necessarily representative of the general population, even with formula fixes designed to shore things up. Bear that in mind."

http://techland.time.com/2013/12/02/did-microsofts-xbox-one-really-beat-sonys-playstation-4-in-black-friday-sales/

I was out on Black Friday and saw about 16 XB Ones just sitting around and no one buying them. Dont get me wrong I'm not trying to say XB One is a flop or anything but the articles I keep seeing come up about them killing on Black Friday I think are an blown out of proprtion.



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dj2one said:

All these articles about XB One  dominating Black Friday reference an InfoScout report. Sounds like they arent really the most reliable method to claim XB One is dominating.

"But then you have this little Black Friday sales story making the rounds, which suggests the Xbox One won Black Friday at U.S. retail, and by a significant margin. It comes from InfoScout, a beta startup that launched last year and claims it can track Black Friday sales in real time.

Before we go over the numbers, a word on InfoScout's methods, which sound a little like a page from a voodoo cookbook: a roux of "computer vision & crowdsourcing ... natural language processing & machine learning ... social media & big data analytics" and apps that encourage customers to voluntarily snap pictures of receipts in trade for cash- or charity-related incentives; this, says InfoScout, lets the company provide "a nationally projectable sample of American shopping behavior." But survey methodology is tricky business, and sometime what sounds like voodoo isn't voodoo at all.

Without getting too much into the weeds here, the word you want to pay attention to in that last quote is "projectable," which means something very different from "representative." Since InfoScout's survey results are based on voluntary data (provided by a subset of the population with the sort of technology necessary to furnish said data), they're not necessarily representative of the general population, even with formula fixes designed to shore things up. Bear that in mind."

http://techland.time.com/2013/12/02/did-microsofts-xbox-one-really-beat-sonys-playstation-4-in-black-friday-sales/

I was out on Black Friday and saw about 16 XB Ones just sitting around and no one buying them. Dont get me wrong I'm not trying to say XB One is a flop or anything but the articles I keep seeing come up about them killing on Black Friday I think are an blown out of proprtion.

Isn't this ancedotal evidance?



So do I, PS360 likely sold the most home consoles and by a good margin.



 

I think Xbox One won by default. Microsoft simply shipped more units than Sony did.



Are we going to see a thread like this everyday until the numbers prove it?



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Nsanity said:
dj2one said:

All these articles about XB One  dominating Black Friday reference an InfoScout report. Sounds like they arent really the most reliable method to claim XB One is dominating.

"But then you have this little Black Friday sales story making the rounds, which suggests the Xbox One won Black Friday at U.S. retail, and by a significant margin. It comes from InfoScout, a beta startup that launched last year and claims it can track Black Friday sales in real time.

Before we go over the numbers, a word on InfoScout's methods, which sound a little like a page from a voodoo cookbook: a roux of "computer vision & crowdsourcing ... natural language processing & machine learning ... social media & big data analytics" and apps that encourage customers to voluntarily snap pictures of receipts in trade for cash- or charity-related incentives; this, says InfoScout, lets the company provide "a nationally projectable sample of American shopping behavior." But survey methodology is tricky business, and sometime what sounds like voodoo isn't voodoo at all.

Without getting too much into the weeds here, the word you want to pay attention to in that last quote is "projectable," which means something very different from "representative." Since InfoScout's survey results are based on voluntary data (provided by a subset of the population with the sort of technology necessary to furnish said data), they're not necessarily representative of the general population, even with formula fixes designed to shore things up. Bear that in mind."

http://techland.time.com/2013/12/02/did-microsofts-xbox-one-really-beat-sonys-playstation-4-in-black-friday-sales/

I was out on Black Friday and saw about 16 XB Ones just sitting around and no one buying them. Dont get me wrong I'm not trying to say XB One is a flop or anything but the articles I keep seeing come up about them killing on Black Friday I think are an blown out of proprtion.

Isn't this ancedotal evidance?

Yes that is anecdotal but I did quite a lot of shopping Black Friday and through out the weekend and it made the reports coming out hard for me to believe. Now that I know how the info was compiled to claim MS dominated Black Friday I doubt it even more.



Why having the xbox outsell the Ps4 during black Friday such a big deal?



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When is NPD anyway?



MS bragging about winning black friday would be like someone bragging that they won a race in which only they entered.

More stock on shelves vs. almost completely no stock to sell.



Seece said:
So do I, PS360 likely sold the most home consoles and by a good margin.


Very probable, there were some insane deals on BF this year. I think the 360 will have at least 150k on the number two seller in home consoles and both 7th gen HD consoles have likely beat the 8th consoles for that week in US numbers.