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the_dengle on 30 November 2013

Despite clearly not having the resources at their disposal that Sony and especially Microsoft have, Nintendo is certainly still "one of the big dawgs."

I mean, if I'm to believe that Sony is a "big dawg" and Nintendo is a little dawg of some kind, it's pretty funny how badly the 3DS is whipping the Vita. Some real David vs. Goliath shit there.

But that's not the case. Nintendo is a big dawg. The biggest dawg in the handheld market, as a matter of fact.



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PandaGames on 30 November 2013
STRYKIE said:
PandaGames said:

Jesus, the Wii U is more powefull then the PS3 and XBox360!

It has plenty of games coming which will sell some systems. 

X, MK8, SSBU, .... and the biggest game for 2015: Zelda U. 

 

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The Nintendo bank amount is bigger then the Sony bank amount. 

How many people are aware of this again?

There are still working on some of them. 

And they still have time to advertise cause they will come in a few months. 



 

johnlucas on 30 November 2013
gmcmen said:
johnlucas said:
gmcmen said:
johnlucas said:


I'm a Nintendo fan. Nobody doubts that, I'm sure.
But no one can deny the whomping the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive put on the SNES in the 4th generation.
SNES outsold the Genesis as Sega moved onto the 5th gen with the Sega Saturn.
Sort of like how PS3's now outselling the 360 in the extra innings of the 7th gen when originally it was behind.
As powerful as the Super Nintendo was to the Genesis, the race should not have even been close.
Yet it was.

I was there to witness it live as it happened.
And I love my Super Nintendo to this day.
But the Genesis rocked the SNES in the 4th gen. That is undeniable.
John Lucas


super nes 49 million total sales

sega genesis 30 million total sales

super nes kicked the genesis a$s


Remember I said that SNES overtook the Genesis as Sega moved on towards the 5th gen with the Saturn in 1994.
Between about 1991-1993, Genesis got the better of the SNES in America.
SNES was the descendant of the last generation's market leader, the NES, so it had advantage going in.
But the Genesis overcame those advantages in the heat of the 4th gen fight.
Genesis could only display a palette of 512 colors while SNES had a palette of 32,768 colors.
The powerful SNES should not have even struggled against the Genesis AT ALL if hardware power determined dominance.

Those who brag about being the strongest always end up having the weaker sales as a rule.
Outside of those special exceptions—which I explained how they became the exceptions—the strongest never wins.
John Lucas

It really doesn't matter nes was strongest console and it won, super nes samething, if your talking about the playstation brand, sony always wants to have the most powerful console, it's just with the playstaion and 2 there  competition came out a 1,5 years later so they had more powerful hardware, sony always bragged about the power of playstaion 2 the emotion engine and it can do toy story graphics.


The Sega Master System/Mark III was STRONGER than the NES.
NES was weaker than the Sega Master System.

The PlayStation was weaker than the Nintendo 64.
PS1 = 32-bit. N64 = 64-bit.

The PlayStation 2 was weaker than the Nintendo Gamecube & Microsoft XBox, Toy Story graphics or no.
The Emotion Engine was surpassed by the purple lunchbox & the black & green behemoth.

Don't even go into the handhelds or we'll be here all day.
The only exceptions to this rule was because Sega ran out of money with the Dreamcast & had to cut bait & when SNES ran extra innings in the Donkey Kong Country/Killer Instinct days as Sega moved from Genesis to Saturn in the switch from the 4th generation to the 5th generation.

An older example was when the Atari Video Computer System AKA the Atari 2600 dominated the stronger Mattel Intellivision in the 2nd generation.

It matters.
And it will matter AGAIN this generation.
John Lucas



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bananaking21 on 30 November 2013

i thought nintendo was one of the big dawgs?



Metallicube on 30 November 2013
gmcmen said:

the nintendo controller was the most advanced for its time, the graphics were the best, and it had plenty of  games, your making no sense, nintendo console was a traditional console by all means, so was every single nintendo console before it , the wii is nothing like the nes, mario was the most advanced game for that time.

Wow.. It truly saddens me how soon we forget history.. And it's not like this was 100 years ago or something. It was barely over 30!

Honestly, these kids today...



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STRYKIE on 30 November 2013
johnlucas said:
gmcmen said:
johnlucas said:
gmcmen said:
johnlucas said:


I'm a Nintendo fan. Nobody doubts that, I'm sure.
But no one can deny the whomping the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive put on the SNES in the 4th generation.
SNES outsold the Genesis as Sega moved onto the 5th gen with the Sega Saturn.
Sort of like how PS3's now outselling the 360 in the extra innings of the 7th gen when originally it was behind.
As powerful as the Super Nintendo was to the Genesis, the race should not have even been close.
Yet it was.

I was there to witness it live as it happened.
And I love my Super Nintendo to this day.
But the Genesis rocked the SNES in the 4th gen. That is undeniable.
John Lucas


super nes 49 million total sales

sega genesis 30 million total sales

super nes kicked the genesis a$s


Remember I said that SNES overtook the Genesis as Sega moved on towards the 5th gen with the Saturn in 1994.
Between about 1991-1993, Genesis got the better of the SNES in America.
SNES was the descendant of the last generation's market leader, the NES, so it had advantage going in.
But the Genesis overcame those advantages in the heat of the 4th gen fight.
Genesis could only display a palette of 512 colors while SNES had a palette of 32,768 colors.
The powerful SNES should not have even struggled against the Genesis AT ALL if hardware power determined dominance.

Those who brag about being the strongest always end up having the weaker sales as a rule.
Outside of those special exceptions—which I explained how they became the exceptions—the strongest never wins.
John Lucas

It really doesn't matter nes was strongest console and it won, super nes samething, if your talking about the playstation brand, sony always wants to have the most powerful console, it's just with the playstaion and 2 there  competition came out a 1,5 years later so they had more powerful hardware, sony always bragged about the power of playstaion 2 the emotion engine and it can do toy story graphics.


The Sega Master System/Mark III was STRONGER than the NES.
NES was weaker than the Sega Master System.

The PlayStation was weaker than the Nintendo 64.
PS1 = 32-bit. N64 = 64-bit.

The PlayStation 2 was weaker than the Nintendo Gamecube & Microsoft XBox, Toy Story graphics or no.
The Emotion Engine was surpassed by the purple lunchbox & the black & green behemoth.

Don't even go into the handhelds or we'll be here all day.
The only exceptions to this rule was because Sega ran out of money with the Dreamcast & had to cut bait & when SNES ran extra innings in the Donkey Kong Country/Killer Instinct days as Sega moved from Genesis to Saturn in the switch from the 4th generation to the 5th generation.

An older example was when the Atari Video Computer System AKA the Atari 2600 dominated the stronger Mattel Intellivision in the 2nd generation.

It matters.
And it will matter AGAIN this generation.
John Lucas

This is where the terminology gets thrown into chaos again though sir.

The PS1 won that generation because of more experiences that would've been impossible on the N64 than vice versa. I really don't think some of you guys realize the full scale extent of just how badly the N64 was crippled by it's use of cartridges. The Atari Jaguar was also '64-bit', go figure.

Even in Japan, the Saturn had the initial stronghold because of it's more compelling library of superior arcade ports over the PS1, and maintained a lead over the N64 due to it's intricate library of RPGs. Sega's catastrophic 3rd party relations is what fucked it over everywhere else to the point where how well it was doing in Japan wasn't enough to suffice.

Hardware does indeed matter. It's just easier to point out that THE most powerful system of the generation has never been the market leader.



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STRYKIE on 30 November 2013
PandaGames said:
STRYKIE said:
PandaGames said:

Jesus, the Wii U is more powefull then the PS3 and XBox360!

It has plenty of games coming which will sell some systems. 

X, MK8, SSBU, .... and the biggest game for 2015: Zelda U. 

 

+

 

The Nintendo bank amount is bigger then the Sony bank amount. 

How many people are aware of this again?

There are still working on some of them. 

And they still have time to advertise cause they will come in a few months. 

 So it's just a trivial dick measuring contest of proving that the hardware is more capable than some people think, despite the fact there's already a more powerful machine already in full swing?

Gamecube all over again.



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STRYKIE on 30 November 2013
MohammadBadir said:
Soundwave said:
The SNES was realistically the strongest in its gen. 3DO was not a realistic competitior, neither was the Jaguar. These were extremely fringe consoles that no one bought (or could afford even if they wanted one in 3DO's case).


TurboGrafx? :P

Is there an underlying joke I'm not seeing here or do you legitimately believe the TG16 was more powerful than the Mega Drive/Genesis, nevermind the SNES?



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sabastian on 30 November 2013

Until Nintendo receives compelling 3rd party support, its going to be a steep uphill climb for the wii-u. 1st party Nintendo titles will not give it the 1st place this go round. PS4 has a great mix of 1st party titles that cover all genres, diverse downloadable titles , all 3rd party support. Nintendo needs much much MORE.



brendude13 on 30 November 2013
tbone51 said:
Is this going to be a Every other day with you now O.o

Just asking >_<

No no no, you've totally got the wrong idea.

...You see, he's "concerned", just like you.