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So?

Yes, yes there is! 41 30.37%
 
Maybe, can't put my finger on it though 14 10.37%
 
No, it's only you! 51 37.78%
 
Boo, why don't you go by an xbox one then! 8 5.93%
 
Boo go buy a wii u! 5 3.70%
 
Wow, there buddy! 1 0.74%
 
The wii u is just cruel!(to above comment) 5 3.70%
 
lol 5 3.70%
 
hmmm 3 2.22%
 
why am I still typing? oh final line yay! 2 1.48%
 
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J_Allard said:
It's bland and generic. It's also balanced terribly.


Anyone here surprised at this comment? We all know well enough that this guy has nothing positive to say about anything Sony!

 

You were just banned for something similar. It's clear you've learned nothing from it. SMH...



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bubblegamer said:
J_Allard said:
It's bland and generic. It's also balanced terribly.


Anyone here surprised at this comment? We all know well enough that this guy has nothing positive to say about anything Sony!

 

You were just banned for something similar. It's clear you've learned nothing from it. SMH...

I was banned for telling a dude it's his time of the month. And it was worth it. I have never been banned for any console warz comments. Probably because I don't say anything that warrants it. I love all my consoles, including my PS3. Just because I don't shill for company A B or C doesn't mean anything. Hope that helps.

So if you wanna get back on topic, you don't find KZ bland or generic? What exactly about it makes you disagree? To me the first one was about as ho-hum gameplay wise as you could get. It did have an incredible industrial war torn setting, but the game itself never did a single thing that made it stand out to me. Run through one corridor maze into the next, maybe fight a tank, or a "boss" enemy with a cliche weakness. No challenge from the AI whatsoever. I dug KZ3's story with Stahl and Orlork or whoever, but the rest of the campaign was as equally generic as 2 imho. Plus it pretty much abandoned the industrial setting that gave KZ2 the only unique attribute it had imho. These games were out what... 2 and 4 years ago? Yet I cannot remember a single event from either of them. Meanwhile I can still remember Bioshock when the twist is revealed, or when you know who dies. Or CoD4 when you die, or the whole ghillie suit scene, or the sniper scene. Or meeting Resnov in World at War. Finding the body of you know who in Left 4 Dead 2, Far Cry 3 and insanity. If you want to count Fallout 3/NV I could list a hundred more. Yet KZ has none of these iconic moments. In fact I'd need to check with a wikia just to remember the story of either. Generic, forgettable.

MP wise as I already said, KZ2 was great for a short time, but once people learned how to exploit the custom spawns, every match became a spawn fest. Nothing but camping and either being slaughtered or doing the slaughtering yourself. It also suffers from the same problem BF does imho, the shit you unlock later in the game is just way better than what you start out with. If these games are going to copy CoD then they need to do it in a balanced manner like CoD does for the most part. I had no problems with the input lag or the "realistic" (ha) weight of the guns or players. My accuracy in KZ2 is like 35%, higher than any CoD or BF I have played.

KZ3 MP I dug the Operations mode but IIRC it shipped with like 3 maps for it. And every time I tried to play other modes, the game would never be full, and the players who did join would never make the teams balanced. Games were constantly 3 or 4 on like 7 or 8. I wish GG didn't purge stats or something because I think my KZ3 stats were pretty good. Just not enough meat on the bone to keep me playing. Personally I think if they combined the map style and gameplay of KZ2 with the balance and modes of KZ3 it might have a chance of being a good MP game.



PureDante said:
J_Allard said:
It's bland and generic. It's also balanced terribly.


So its like Call of Duty?

Balance wise the only bad CoD I have played is MW2.

The rest, sure. CoD has become pretty bland and generic. In fact most of the FPS genre has altogether. Too many CoD clones, KZ included.



KZ multiplayers were my favourite FPS multiplayers this gen, cause KZ has my favourite mechanics for an FPS game. Simple as that. Multiplayer for me is pure gameplay, if the game in SP had great story, graphics, art, soundtrack, etc. but the mechanics weren't on par, I'm not even thinking about multiplayer.



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For me, what has been off about Killzone isn't just one thing. First, the story is not told very well and the characters are not compelling. Then the mutliplayer was always a bit too sluggish for my taste and lacked the customization of other FPS games that I had come to expect by the time Killzone 3 was out. I also felt that the overall presentation, even going as far as the title music, has always felt a little bland. I love Killzone more for its multiplayer and story 'potential' than anything it has actually achieved in either category up to this point.

All of this is why I am really excited from what I've seen and heard of Shadow Fall. The single player story is going a different direction instead of the whole war scenario of previous games and the gameplay is being expanded on greatly over the previous pure trigger squeezers. Echo looks like she may be the first truly compelling character in the series. Then you have the multiplayer which is reportedly less sluggish and more responsive than previous titles. It has also added a ton of challenges and the weapon attachments were something that just needed to happen at this point.



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by way the best fps (and by far the best looking graphically) of this generation.
Way better than Call of Duty, Resistance, Halo, Battlefield, etc.
it was so much deeper and engrossing than the others. The multiplayer was perfect, with great classes, that were all important and the team relied on to win. great weapons, and it freakin had mechs and jet packs. And best of all it had Move support, which is by far the best controller input of any FPS. it made it so easy to play, and i dominated in multiplayer due to it.

Also killzone 2 a 3 were by far the best looking fps games graphically. So much detail and effects are thrown in this game. Smoke, fog, particle effects, atmosphere, the best looking,highest detail weapons around. theyre a beauty.

edit: i forgot Cyrsis 2 and 3. Killzone is still better than those games, but graphically speaking Crysis 2 and 3 look better than Killzone 2, but not Killzone 3. Killzone 3 is still best graphically.



Munkeh111 said:
It's slower and more sluggish than other games, but its intentional. I have never adored any of the games, but I've certainly enjoyed all of them and the main battle rifle (M82?) is one of my favourites guns in all games ever.

I'm playing through Mercenary at the moment and really enjoying it. There's a nice variety of areas and battles and acceptable story....

But I am definitely looking forward to ShadowFall

Psh, all my favorite guns are still on the old classic medal of honor & call of duty games on PS2. Something about those games made me love the guns, hehe.



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bubblegamer said:
J_Allard said:
It's bland and generic. It's also balanced terribly.


Anyone here surprised at this comment? We all know well enough that this guy has nothing positive to say about anything Sony!

 

You were just banned for something similar. It's clear you've learned nothing from it. SMH...


LOL You hit the nail on the head. 



Baalzamon said:
Munkeh111 said:
It's slower and more sluggish than other games, but its intentional. I have never adored any of the games, but I've certainly enjoyed all of them and the main battle rifle (M82?) is one of my favourites guns in all games ever.

I'm playing through Mercenary at the moment and really enjoying it. There's a nice variety of areas and battles and acceptable story....

But I am definitely looking forward to ShadowFall

Psh, all my favorite guns are still on the old classic medal of honor & call of duty games on PS2. Something about those games made me love the guns, hehe.

Actually that does remind me of the M1 Garand, what a gun that was



Why the hell is everyone attacking J_Allard for not liking Killzone? Are people not allowed to have an opinion? Having an argument is fine, but attacking him and calling him fanboy is unnecessary.

Killzone did not appeal to me either. I only recently tried my first killzone (mercenary for Vita), and it is fun & enjoyable to play but the story is crap.

I think the biggest issue with Killzone for me is that is does not do anything with the cool setting, you have some cool villains here and there but they never utilize them well enough (also crap protagonists). Killzone does feel generic, but I think KZ:SF will try to change that!



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