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i dont want to start flaim war here, but i honestly think this is looking so much better than forza. it just looks so much more realistic. i dont know about what other people think but this is blowing my mind.

Well it's your opinion so people shouldn't get upset over it.  But, I do agree with you.  The real time lighting/reflections and global illumination(it has this, right?) set this game ahead of anything else,imo, and make it look so realistic.  Everything is just so subtle. 

I think i could count 12 cars :D

why do you mention forza then and don't just say that you love how it looks? with posts like these i always think people want to start something (with the "i don't want to start a flame war but")

they don't even try to reach the same audience so people could also just stop comparing these games. i also don't see people comparing forza with nfs or driveclub with nfs. 

and it would be shocking if it wouldn't look better. it will release next year which gives them much more time (these few months wouldn't be so important in a few years but they are with new hardware and tools which get better like every day) and will probably only run with 30fps. it has less cars on track if i understood it right and has probably also less calculations for car physics.

and that all on stronger hardware. 

and no, it isn't blowing my mind  

Driveclub keeps looking better each time we see their latest update.

i honestly want to see how people compare it to forza. i asked nnodley because like me, he studied (well he is still sutdying) 3D animaton, and we are cool. i do like visual comparisons. forza is without a doubt a great looking tittle, but i always felt it went way over the top with how shiny and clean it looks. and i just want to compare. 

anybody who replies to me looking for a flaimwar i just wont repsond to.

well, especially the "very colourful" style of forza is also a question of taste. i always thought turn 10 wants to build a sim on real race tracks (well, those which are on real race tracks) but still wants to let it look like a video game with brighter colours and so on... because that is pretty much the case in all of their games. 

but from a technical perspective driveclub has it much easier to look good so that it isn't something special and rather something everyone should expect. some driveclub guy even said some month ago that they will aim 30fps because he rather likes to let the game look better. that is something turn 10 or a developer like polyphony would never do for their main forza or gt games. 60fps is obviously much more important in forza and gt but don't you think if the same forza game would be in 30fps that it would look better? 

now it is possible that driveclub will also have 60fps  but that has to be seen before we talk about that then. 

i just wonder why people always compare driveclub and forza and not with other racing games like nfs. i mean, nfs is not like driveclub but drveclub is also not like forza. but if you compare  games with each other just  because they have cars then compare them all with each other?

but in general i think people should simply expect that first party games on ps4 will look better as xb1 first party games. that's why it is a stronger hardware, to get more out of it. comparisons of games on the same hardware make much more sense in my opinion.

isnt that Japan?