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So Microsoft is going to be replacing the thumb sticks with pads that remind one of the Intellivision controller for their ONE?



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daredevil.shark said:
Kasz216 said:

No.  He means by making the Xbone focused more on being an entertainment center then just a pure gaming console.

The Xbone is more or less designed to run your entire living room.

While the PS4 is just more... games.


Dont fall for marketing tacticks. Xbox One marketed it as all in one entertainment device and ps4 is known as gaming device. But in reality both of these two consoles are very same in their capabilities. Plus I have a pc for my entertainment purposes. I want consoles to be game centric not entertainment centric.


I have to say, I do use Netflix on my PS3 quite a lot. My PC can do the same, but it isn't hooked up to my main TV



"I don’t know their approach"

"their approach helps validate ours"



His comments are true, Steam's family sharing plan is an obvious copy of M$'s idea. But it is obviously the same as what is already in use on ios. Multiple devices sharing one account. Gamers are just nervous nellies. They buy more and more games digitally and the retail end is continually shrinking. M$ never said that you couldn't buy your damn disc copy. Like others have said, people just didn't get it and went sideways over nothing. The signing in every 24 hours was overboard, but once a week shouldn't be a problem. The way around it is to require the disc in the drive for physical media and they have been doing that for years. I guess console gamers like to pay $60 per title. Thats the way they voted with their pre-orders.



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Ok, kids, let's read the actual quote again:

“But, Valve is clearly a smart company. I admire what they do, I admire how they do it. I would add though, that their approach helps validate ours. The biggest screen in the house is the living room, the console which you have connected to that is also usually connected to the most sophisticated sound system. That’s the centre of gravity for games in the home,” he added.

Did he say anything there about the original policies of the Xbox One?  Was there any connection made to them at all?  No.  

So is he referring to?  There's nothing to figure out.  No implications.  He said it directly.  It validates Microsoft's approach at moving from the PC to the living room for gaming.  That's it.

So can you all just put your guns away and think with your briains for a change?  Please?



kitler53 said:
Kasz216 said:
kitler53 said:
because steams business model isn't changing.  xbox's business model was drastically changed. 

there is an audience for both but neither audience wants to be forced to change.


Also... lets be honest here.  Valve is a LOT more consumer friendly then Microsoft or Sony have ever been.

Valve has earned a lot of trust.

maybe.  but i'll stand by my point.  valve has been digital only since day 1.  their audience is entirely made up of those comfortable with that business model.  xbox (and playstation) has always been a physical/retail model.  their audience is comfortable with that model.  xbox can change if they really want but they have to use a "carrot on a stick" method not a "#deal with it" method and change has to be gradual.


This isn't true. They had normal disc releases until the launch of Steam, then were very "deal with it" by making HL2 exclusive to Steam. It was pretty unpopular.

http://kotaku.com/steam-is-10-today-remember-when-it-sucked-1297594444



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The things is, with Valve it was a massive and hard-won success story. They played on an open playing field with others and gradually showed how good their system was over a long period of time. It became as successful as it is today over a 10-year period of time. The trust in this type of system takes a long time to build and can't just be skipped over.





crissindahouse said:
All i wonder about is why people would be fine with some stuff on a steam machine which they didn't want to accept on Xbox One. Maybe I'm wrong but i don't think that I can resell my Bioshock Infinte disc since i used the code of it on Steam and it will be probably the same with all other games you register on steam and which you buy at retail.

With Xbox One you had at least the chance to sell it at registered retailers but with my retail games I registered on Steam?

The reason IMHO is that MS never announced any drop in the price of the software. Games were still going to cost $59.99 both digital and retail. I am of the mind that the console makers and developers should prove to us that the cost of games will dro BEFORE we can accept an enforced all digital platform. If I cannot recoup the cost of my purchases through resale to third parties why would I want what MS was trying to do?

Anyone trying to compare what Steam does and what MS wanted to do are just wrong. Steam is on an open ecosystem meaning that not all PC games HAVE to be activated through Steam and you can play games from disc (or crack them to run without disc) and without losing the functionality of your system or other software etc. when you don't check in with Valve every 24 hours. Sure most new retail games are tied to some form of digital account but not all. I still have plenty of PC games that have no form of DRM.

Plus, there is nothing stopping people form have all digital libraries on consoles and no reason that MS/Sony cannot allow the same functionality that Steam offers while still allowing physical media purchasers to resell there games like they always have. There's no reason for MS to bring back all the crappy DRM schemes they had planned along.

MS approach was too heavy handed and they never extended any olive branches that consumers could actually benefit from. When prices are crazy low like they can get via Steam then maybe MS/Sony can attempt to sell me on all digital. Until then I like the way consoles treat games as opposed to my PC games. It's good to have options.



Darth Tigris said:

Ok, kids, let's read the actual quote again:

“But, Valve is clearly a smart company. I admire what they do, I admire how they do it. I would add though, that their approach helps validate ours. The biggest screen in the house is the living room, the console which you have connected to that is also usually connected to the most sophisticated sound system. That’s the centre of gravity for games in the home,” he added.

Did he say anything there about the original policies of the Xbox One?  Was there any connection made to them at all?  No.  

So is he referring to?  There's nothing to figure out.  No implications.  He said it directly.  It validates Microsoft's approach at moving from the PC to the living room for gaming.  That's it.

So can you all just put your guns away and think with your briains for a change?  Please?

That might have made sense back when the actually Xbox number 1 launched but they have been in the living room for over a decade now....