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daredevil.shark said:
By validation does he mean DRM? If its yes then I guess microsoft may introduce DRM again in XBox One in future. I am scared of digital only or cloud only future.

No.  He means by making the Xbone focused more on being an entertainment center then just a pure gaming console.

The Xbone is more or less designed to run your entire living room.

While the PS4 is just more... games.



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kitler53 said:
crissindahouse said:
All i wonder about is why people would be fine with some stuff on a steam machine which they didn't want to accept on Xbox One. Maybe I'm wrong but i don't think that I can resell my Bioshock Infinte disc since i used the code of it on Steam and it will be probably the same with all other games you register on steam and which you buy at retail.

With Xbox One you had at least the chance to sell it at registered retailers but with my retail games I registered on Steam?


because steams business model isn't changing.  xbox's business model was drastically changed. 

there is an audience for both but neither audience wants to be forced to change.


Also... lets be honest here.  Valve is a LOT more consumer friendly then Microsoft or Sony have ever been.

Valve has earned a lot of trust.



Kasz216 said:
daredevil.shark said:
By validation does he mean DRM? If its yes then I guess microsoft may introduce DRM again in XBox One in future. I am scared of digital only or cloud only future.

No.  He means by making the Xbone focused more on being an entertainment center then just a pure gaming console.

The Xbone is more or less designed to run your entire living room.

While the PS4 is just more... games.

That isn't really what I got from his quote.  He seems to be saying that Valve is focusing on the television as the center of where gaming should be played on (which all home consoles are already doing), and moving away from the traditional Monitor-only approach.



I don't really see that he actually says anything, it just seems like nicer PR talk for nothing

But don't try and copy Valve, they made Half Life so everyone will love them forever



Kasz216 said:
daredevil.shark said:
By validation does he mean DRM? If its yes then I guess microsoft may introduce DRM again in XBox One in future. I am scared of digital only or cloud only future.

No.  He means by making the Xbone focused more on being an entertainment center then just a pure gaming console.

The Xbone is more or less designed to run your entire living room.

While the PS4 is just more... games.


Dont fall for marketing tacticks. Xbox One marketed it as all in one entertainment device and ps4 is known as gaming device. But in reality both of these two consoles are very same in their capabilities. Plus I have a pc for my entertainment purposes. I want consoles to be game centric not entertainment centric.



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MS, you should learn from Gabe if you want to push your vision - he's master of obfuscation, he convinced PC gamers that Steam is about openness, while selling them yet another walled garden.



KingdomHeartsFan said:

Why would he bring this up again when he knows people hated them for their original plans.  He makes it sound like they could bring them back...really dumb decision IMO.


People didn't hate them for their plans. People hated them for what they perceived their plans to be. The people that hated Microsoft's plans, and the people that actually knew their plans in any detail had very little overlap.



Still annoys me this, no one was questioning copying steam in the digital arena, just dont screw over box products, they didnt have to do a 180 on any of there features as far as digital was concerned, we clearly never new the whole truth.



Much of the early criticism of the Xbox One wasn't directed at Microsoft's move towards digital; it was their initial plan to dramatically alter disc-based gaming that got people upset.

Still, this article isn't really about digital distribution, nor is it about branching off to include other forms of entertainment; it's about Valve's steps towards the living room television as the center for gaming, as is seen with Big Picture, the Steam Machines, their new gamepad as an alternative to the keyboard and mouse, and so on.



Kasz216 said:
kitler53 said:
crissindahouse said:
All i wonder about is why people would be fine with some stuff on a steam machine which they didn't want to accept on Xbox One. Maybe I'm wrong but i don't think that I can resell my Bioshock Infinte disc since i used the code of it on Steam and it will be probably the same with all other games you register on steam and which you buy at retail.

With Xbox One you had at least the chance to sell it at registered retailers but with my retail games I registered on Steam?


because steams business model isn't changing.  xbox's business model was drastically changed. 

there is an audience for both but neither audience wants to be forced to change.


Also... lets be honest here.  Valve is a LOT more consumer friendly then Microsoft or Sony have ever been.

Valve has earned a lot of trust.

maybe.  but i'll stand by my point.  valve has been digital only since day 1.  their audience is entirely made up of those comfortable with that business model.  xbox (and playstation) has always been a physical/retail model.  their audience is comfortable with that model.  xbox can change if they really want but they have to use a "carrot on a stick" method not a "#deal with it" method and change has to be gradual.