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rolltide101x on 20 September 2013

R&D should be much lower than the PS3 but still quite expensive. Like you said who knows how long it will take for them to make an actual "profit"



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TheShape31 on 20 September 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
TheShape31 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
cheesecake said:

well, hate to break it to you Sony, but not everyone uses PS Plus/pays for Online.


Yeah, too bad for sony... they wont profit from me because i wont buy ps+ just two games and an extra controller


Actually they'll probably profit from those 2 games and 1 extra controller.  Accessories (I've worked in retail) always bring these companies their biggest profit, so does software.  You're doing them the same favor, just in a different way.


Haha... that was exactly my point. Read the post i was responding to. He made it seem like ps+ was the only way to profit since that was the only thing specified


I read your post incorrectly, I thought you wrote that you WILL purchase those things.  Moving along...



jacks81x on 20 September 2013
cheesecake said:

well, hate to break it to you Sony, but not everyone uses PS Plus/pays for Online.


Yes, but not everyone is going to buy only 1 game either.  So those who don't get PS+ will be offset by those who buy multiple games and/or extra accessories. 



SnowPrince on 20 September 2013
Kasz216 said:

So they aren't counting R&D in "Hardware loss".

Still, only $60 loss. That's quite impressive considering the specs. It will be interesting to see if that turns out true. (Seems hard to imagine considering assembly, packaging, shipping, advertising.)

So who knows what he's including/not including in the statement.

Yes I agree with this. Sony did really learn their lesson, $60 is really low if you consider the specs. Wonder if it will have a small price cut in its second year..



sales2099 on 20 September 2013

Gotta admit, they played it safe, and in doing so, smart, this upcoming gen.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

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zumnupy10 on 20 September 2013

It won't be hard for PS4 to make money as it was with PS3.



cheesecake on 20 September 2013

for comparison's sake, does anyone know how much do the other guys take a loss on their consoles?



enditall727 on 20 September 2013

MS is supposedly going to break even at $499 with X1(but who knows now after their whole scrambling to up the specs thing) and I believe that Nibtendo was taking like a $25 loss with eac Wii U sold a while back. Nintendo said something like they would break even if each customer bought 1 game with their Wii U

 

OT: $60? I'm impressed



Carl on 20 September 2013

Only a $60 loss is great when you compare it to the $200 loss with PS3.

Keep games coming and get a big PS+ userbase and we will be seeing big profits in the next few Years!



                            

Augen on 20 September 2013

Well they should make out like a bandit on me. Given I own over 60 PS3 titles in five years of owning that system safe to say PS4 will match that with me getting it near launch.