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You really have understood what MoS tell! Happy to see that I'm not the only one that share this feeling! :)



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attaboy said:
I think the Jor-El ship thingy was just an AI based on Jor-El's personality. That's why it was able to "think".

Actually if an AI is connected to a ship don't people think that he is connected to all the sensors on the ship so being able to tell where people are wouldn't be that hard.



 

 

Supermans recklessness is not really the issue. The movie is just too excessive with the damage that is done to metropolis. Its just disaster porn at its worst.

I'm completely fine with Superman punching people into buildings and doing millions in property damage, but usually even in the cartoons, you don't get the sense that much collateral damage is being done. Even in Avengers, a couple buildings got smashed up, but you could walk away from that movie believing that the bodycount was relatively low. In MoS, there is noway that 1000's of people didn't die. Thats just depressing.

One thing that could have remedied this is if we would have seen atleast a couple scenes of superman actually... you know... being a superhero. Save a couple people from falling debris, rescue some people from falling off a building... etc. We never got that, all superman did was punch people in the face.



wilco said:
Supermans recklessness is not really the issue. The movie is just too excessive with the damage that is done to metropolis. Its just disaster porn at its worst.

I'm completely fine with Superman punching people into buildings and doing millions in property damage, but usually even in the cartoons, you don't get the sense that much collateral damage is being done. Even in Avengers, a couple buildings got smashed up, but you could walk away from that movie believing that the bodycount was relatively low. In MoS, there is noway that 1000's of people didn't die. Thats just depressing.

One thing that could have remedied this is if we would have seen atleast a couple scenes of superman actually... you know... being a superhero. Save a couple people from falling debris, rescue some people from falling off a building... etc. We never got that, all superman did was punch people in the face.

 

He saved the soldiers in the helicopter from Faora.

The Terra forming machine is what did the most damage. Not Superman fighting. Even the US Army did some damge.



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All the destruction could have been avoided if Superman had just gone back the the ship to talk to Jor-El after Zod gave the earth 24 hours, then Jor-El could have told him how to trap them with the phantom drive.

But instead he just talks to some random priest, never talks to Jor-El and lets potentially thousands of people die because the plot demanded it.



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"Superman Returns had no action"

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My biggest problem with the Superman is the fact that be wasn't using his powers to become rich as some sort of athlete. Totally unrealistic.



deskpro2k3 said:
wilco said:
Supermans recklessness is not really the issue. The movie is just too excessive with the damage that is done to metropolis. Its just disaster porn at its worst.

I'm completely fine with Superman punching people into buildings and doing millions in property damage, but usually even in the cartoons, you don't get the sense that much collateral damage is being done. Even in Avengers, a couple buildings got smashed up, but you could walk away from that movie believing that the bodycount was relatively low. In MoS, there is noway that 1000's of people didn't die. Thats just depressing.

One thing that could have remedied this is if we would have seen atleast a couple scenes of superman actually... you know... being a superhero. Save a couple people from falling debris, rescue some people from falling off a building... etc. We never got that, all superman did was punch people in the face.

 

He saved the soldiers in the helicopter from Faora.

The Terra forming machine is what did the most damage. Not Superman fighting. Even the US Army did some damge.


Yeah, he saved them by punching Faora in the face. When I talk about saving I mean actually helping out people without violence like Superman has often been known to do in the past.


I agree that the Terra Forming machine did most of the damage... and thats my complaint. The writers shouldn't have had such a destructive force in this first movie. There is  a disconnect because after all the ridiculous amounts of property damage and lives lost, the movie trys to end on this upbeat happy note, and it just feels wrong. The movie would have actually been better off and more believable if there was no terraforming machine or atleast if they toned down its destructive force a little.



Cobretti2 said:
attaboy said:
I think the Jor-El ship thingy was just an AI based on Jor-El's personality. That's why it was able to "think".

Actually if an AI is connected to a ship don't people think that he is connected to all the sensors on the ship so being able to tell where people are wouldn't be that hard.


That doesn't explain that the AI would not in which direction the bad guy would punch.



TheBlackNaruto said:

Lois was on the ship because it had already been spread that she knew who Superman was. And was used as collateral in case Superman was going to try anything. Atleast that is what made sense to me.

It was not that it was advanced AI that made hims ee the future. He was INTERGRATED with the ship. So being a part of the ship he sees everything that is going on in the ship and where everyone is. So the ounch was not seen in the future the girl was throwing the punch or in motion and he told her to move her head.

As for the action sequences yeah they did get a little repetitive and went on for a LONG time. So I will give you that much, but evenw itht hose things for a Superman reboot it was not a bad movie at all. People are just nitpicking, which can be done with ANY and every movie and then I guess every movie is bad...for what it was and how they brought Superman back to the big screen they did a very good job.


That would explain why they didn't even bother questioning her.

Being integrated with the ship doesn't explain how he would know where the bad guy would punch before he even started throwing the punch.

It's not nitpicking - the movie in itself is bad even if you disregard the lazy plot. I guess the Transformer crowd are the ones who liked it because of the action. The whole scene with the tornado and kevin costner was cringeworthy. And can we get over the bullied-as-a-kid superhero now? It's been done to death.