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Are you jumping out because of the loss of free multiplayer?

Yes 191 17.83%
 
No 708 66.11%
 
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Cj2i3 on 11 June 2013

I'm fine with it been paying for XBL Gold for 4 years now and haven't gotten anything back aside from being able to play multiplayer. Now with PS+ Ill be able to get a little something back other than just multiplayer.



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Chris Hu on 11 June 2013
Otakumegane said:
Wait wait wait wait..

It's not online multiplayer...it's multiplayer period? even local?

I don't think no one could charge you for local multiplayer if anyone could it would be Nintendo they could make a boatload of cash that way.



kupomogli on 11 June 2013
LemonSlice said:
Honestly you guys against it because you want to save money, you know the best way to save money? PS+

I'm on PS+ and I'm still against it.  People shouldn't have to pay to play online.  PS+ is a great deal, but there are those that don't want it, and they shouldn't be forced to get it just to play a game online.  A server costs next to nothing to run and maintain in comparison to what a game with good online usually makes anyways.

Most online games are P2P, peer to peer.  Bandwidth is next to nothing in comparison to full server support. 

PS+ is a great deal and it's less of a slap in the face, but it's still bs that it's required.



richardhutnik on 11 June 2013
darkknightkryta said:
Michael-5 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Michael-5 said:

Question: What are the payment options?

Is there an option to join for a month at a time for $5? I'm hear there is, but a full year subscription comes at a discount for $50.

If that's the case, I'm all in. $50 for a couple months of play is too much, but $5-$10 for a month or two? That's fine. I just need a system that works for my gaming habits. (Single Player for 80% off the year).

Jack said: "for less than $5 a month". $49.99 a year

I hope they make a feasible monthly plan, I only play online for a month or two at a time between 6-15 months of offline. So an annual plan doesn't work for me

If there is no short term plan, I'll have to hold off my PS4 purchase to offset this extra fee.

Still, nice to hear PS4 plays retail games forever.

PS + has a 3 month option for like 13 bucks or something.  My friend actually did that to play Monkey Island.  

@OP.  I'm seveely disappointed.  I understand a fee for Destiny, Elder Scroll, or other titles that needs a server for persistant gameplay.  But something like Street Fighter where it can be done P2P, there should be no need for subscription.  This soured the entire conference for me.  Sad cause I don't think I'd actually let my subscription expire since I get so much out of plus, but I am soo disappointed with this.

Did you think the share button on the PS4 controller wouldn't require servers, or that not all games would use it?  Sony is pushing spectators watching people play.  How do you have a bunch of people watching people play online, by Peer 2 Peer only?  Go look at how Sony is running online play with Gaikai.  Watching and share are integrated, not optional.



SvennoJ on 11 June 2013

It's a shame free multiplayer is gone, oh well there is still PC and WiiU for that.

I already have ps+, so long as those offerings are still good I will be extending it anyway. With their 15 months for $49 promotions it is already well worth it.

I guess they figured price and no online drm would be enough to offer against xbox one, they are right.
Still sucks but at least they can stop charging bandwidth fees to 3rd parties and get some more demos on there.



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Muffin31190 on 11 June 2013
Pristine20 said:
joemanuel222 said:
lol well now sony fanboys accept this because sony is doing it lol
they are the most pathetic of them all.


You joined the site just to post this?

How about this: Now that Sony is doing it, M$ fanboys consider it a problem? What happened to you get what you pay for and all the other justifications for XBL gold's price?

PS+ has an obvious justification if you didn't notice. Read the price tag of the console.

^^^
This



joeorc on 11 June 2013
JusSayian said:

Its funny how people used to the whole free online as a weapon and the main reason why they bought a ps3 now that its gone it doesn't matter.  Hypocrites lol

I can still play online multi-player free on my PS3, while with the xbox360 multi-player still cost's you money, so no they are still not the same thing.



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

Pristine20 on 11 June 2013
Imaginedvl said:
scat398 said:
And the hypocrisy of a million Sony fans begins....

With that being said this definitely the right move for Sony. It will give them the level playing field they have desperately needed with Xbox live and pricing. Ms has been able to use live as huge leverage on the financial end to keep profits up and price low.

This is a good move by Sony just a lot of fans are going to have to eat some crow.

lol seriously :) I'm looking at the lot of replies here... Those people argued few months ago about Xbox Live and the fact that online multiplayer should be FREE not matter what.

$599 + free online or $400 + paid online. Gues which strategy was better last gen? Sony adopted the better strategy and judging by your avatar I'm pretty sure you were perfectly happy with that strategy just as you will probably be happy licensing your games



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mii-gamer on 11 June 2013

What happened to all those people who were ripping on the xbox live last gen. Oh wait they flipped flopped. The hypocrisy is hilarious.

On topic: I don't mind paying for PS plus, i have been paying for live for 3 years now. It is expected now.



UltimateUnknown on 11 June 2013
greenmedic88 said:
UltimateUnknown said:
greenmedic88 said:
PSN+ is a great value, assuming you play the games of the month, but I'm wondering right now how that's going to work given that PS3 games won't play on PS4 hardware (PSN games too since they're based on the same architecture).

So either Sony has free PS4 games available to subscribers on day 1 (seems unlikely) or you're going to be playing your free PSN+ games on your old PS3 and your PSV, assuming you have either.

I've never kept my PSN+ consistent because frankly, I just don't play enough games to go through the free ones given the size of my back catalog of games. I generally only found myself doing 3 month subscriptions when I wanted to take advantage of the PSN+ discounts, which of course are another big bonus/value to the service that is often overlooked.

They're giving drive club for free on day one on consoles if you have PS Plus. I think that's what I saw anyway. They'll follow on with some of those indie games you saw by giving them for free. I imagine it'll just be PS4 games and maybe later when Gaikai comes along, they may give PS3 games again on Gaikai.

So there will be something on launch at least. I'd be able to take advantage of the PS3 and PSV titles, but naturally, I'm going to want to play more things on the new system.

The Gaikai service is what really has the potential to make PSN interesting, if they realize that goal of being able to make most of the back catalog of all PS games through the PS3 available via cloud. Technically, they don't need to make Gaikai a part of PSN+ given that consumers will presumably be paying for licenses on a per game basis anyway, but who knows how they're going to work those details out. Lot of unanswered questions yet. 

I think it makes more sense for them to give backcatalog games from Gaikai through PS+, especially after the console launches. Mainly because the games on Gaikai are going to be older PS3 games that will cost a lot less money after PS4 launches. I don't see them giving away too many full PS4 games just after PS4 launches. I am actually surprised they are even giving Drive Club away. I guess they intend to show their commitment to PS+ especially for making it a requirement for MP now.