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ils411 said:
Because you're a troll... Sony showed games for the PS4...GAMES!!! FOR GAMERS!!!!

Then MS showed TV stuff...TV STUFF!! FOR GAMERS?!!! WTF?!!

I finally see you're true color as an XBOX FANBOY and a TROLL!!

Only a hardcore XBOX FANBOY such as yourself can say that the XBOX ONE reveal was better when clearly it wasn't even targeting gamers. YOU SIR ARE A XBOT FANBOY TROLLING SONY who is blinded by his MS Goggles...

TROLLOLOLOLOLOLLLLL!!!!!

ALL HAIL MUGEN!!!!!

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Are any of you capable of looking at this from a retail sales point of view?

I dont even understand why I try sometimes.



Sony showed games MS didn't, at best we got 5min total of trailers during the entire conference,



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i liked the first half of the sony conference the other half was just 3rd party trolling the best they can but it is amazing compare to the crap at the M$ event



fastyxx said:

MS told us upfront the games would come at E3.  The launch event was console vision as a whole, which they delivered.  A little preview of all the different console envirionment features, from TV to UI to Kinect features to games.  Just what they said they would do.

And at E3 we're going to get buried in games.  People forget that a dozen good titles in year one of launch window is a windfall of games.  Consoles usually launch with 5, 6 games?  

I don;t know why people are expecting 30 titles or something on the first day of a console campaign.  It's completely ridiculous.  They can;t produce quality games that fast, and if they blow out all their devs in the first 6 months, they're going to have nothing new for 16-24 months minimum after that, and then everyone will wonder where the games went. 

It's not like they can run over to Radio Shack and pick up a AAA-title kit and whip something out over the weekend.  Think about when they finalized specs and firmware (if it is indeed even finalized) and then think about getting the games up and running and polished/not buggy enough to make a good impression.  I'd be amazed if either company has more than 4 or 5 games even close to that stage at this point.  Games miss the launch windows ALL the time trying to get things right under new systems/engines/console parameters.  Look how many miss their target dates a decade into a cycle.  

 

A lot of you are compltely unrealistic in your expectations, so you're going to be disappointed no matter what in terms of seeing software early.

Just some more pretty pictures (Graphics) man!  That's all I wanted.

Like maybe a show of that fantasy world demo they kept showing in the background, but only on the big screen.  Sort of like a free sample from a restaurant.  Something to entice.  Get us a little more hungry for E3.

It just seemed to stop a little short. Like, whops, it's over and Good Night!

And granted I was a little bitter over too much sports.  Also outraged at the thought of Spielburg making a little young Master Chief go skateboarding down a tree (ala Hook) and meeting a young alien Grunt.  There Julia Roberts plays the magical fairy Cortana.  Then they become friends, and have to hide from government people with Walky Talkies.  Please say no to Halo: Goonies.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

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BenVTrigger said:
fastyxx said:
People see what they want to see.

People want to join the mass internetz whine of the day.

People have short term memories.

We know next to nothing still about either launch, let alone long term for the gen.

/end thread


Exactly, great comment.

Like I said a kind of weak showing from both. Neither convinced everyone to rush out and immediatly upgrade. E3 though should be much better for both

yea but atleast the playstation event made me excited about what the future holds whereas the xbox event was not exciting and for us outside america the cool features dont mean much when alot of them wont come out here. One bit of good news is the xbox one is number 2 under top selling games on mighty ape the biggest online game retailer.



BenVTrigger said:
Are any of you capable of looking at this from a retail sales point of view?

I dont even understand why I try sometimes.


can you explain it from a retail sales point of view?(being serious)



Yes, from a gamer's perspective the Xbox One's reveal was boring, but this reveal wasn't really ment to hype gamers. I don't think it's wrong saving nearly everything related to games for e3, I mean it's only a couple of weeks away. But maybe that's just my optimism speaking.

The only thing Sony did better was to show off Killzone gameplay, which made it better or at least more interesting (for gamers).



As others already stated. Sony showed games, and made it a point to address the fact that a lot of the problems the PS3 faced early on won't be happening with the PS4. Sonys entire focus was games and gamers.

The thing is, you say Microsoft wasn't aiming at gamers with their reveal. Okay, who were they aiming at? Because casuals sure don't watch stuff like this, same for E3. Casuals don't even know what E3 is lol. The audience at these type of things is always real gamers.

 

EDIT: Also, what do you mean by retail view? Early adopters are NOT casuals, which is who Microsoft aimed their presentation at. Early adopters are the core gamer, which Sony focused on.



arcane_chaos said:
BenVTrigger said:
Are any of you capable of looking at this from a retail sales point of view?

I dont even understand why I try sometimes.


can you explain it from a retail sales point of view?(being serious)

Sure thing. Here's my point of view from a retailer.

Sony

Pros: 

1. Focused on games and the gamer! Sony knows their base and made it clear that's who they were talking to.

2. Bringing old franchises into the new gen. I love Infamous and Killzone. Platinumed games in both franchises. That said they aren't massive sellers but Sony is continuing to cultivate and grow their IPs

3. Knack. It shows Sony continues to develop exclusives in multiple genres not just the "big" ones.

4. Great specs for a console. Should be a viable platform from a spec point of view for the long time.

Cons:

1. Didnt show the console! Might seem like a small matter for us but its a bit of a marketing nightmare. The casual fan wants to see the hardware and retailers want to show an image consumers can latch on to.

2. No mass market titles. Killzone is great. Infamous is solid. That said those two titles aren't going to make million upon millions of consumers rush out day 1 to buy one.

3. Vague. Sony didn't give concrete details on their OS. We got a single picture. They also didn't spend really any time on the new camera or explain much details on PSN or other policies or features.

ill post a MS one next