famousringo said:
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I guess i just never thought of that kind of stuff as information in that way. Thanks for explaining it.
famousringo said:
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I guess i just never thought of that kind of stuff as information in that way. Thanks for explaining it.
If it means the 30 odd million uninsured get some sort of healthcare then that's a start but the government needs to do more. Either do what South Korea did and have government issue a basic health insurance plan for everyone or do what the UK did and nationalise healthcare all together and create a sort of NHS but also allow some leeway for private companies to compete. At least, it don't matter if you are in poverty or unemployed, you will still get healthcare, that's the biggest flaw with health care in the United States. People's health is not something you should profit from, it's just wrong.
Most developed countries have some sort of safety net for healthcare, it's about the time the United States followed suit.
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NobleTeam360 said: Unconstitutional in my eyes'. |
So people must suffer unneccesarily from preventable illnesses, just because they are priced out of healthcare that taxes should be paying for anyway, just for what a 300 year old piece of paper says. Disgraceful! It's a wonder America is a developed economy, yet alone the richest country in the world with such backward health care measures.
Affordable, accessible and good quality healthcare should be a right not a privilege
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Torillian said: It was really nice timing to find out about one of those preexisting conditions. Really glad that I don't have to worry about going broke from my medical expenses which are probably going to be with me for the rest of my life. Not a chance in hell I could afford a 500 dollar shot every 2 weeks. @Spurge, My understanding is that rates increase dramatically if you smoke, and some companies are considering doing the same for obesity. |
The thing about these costs is that you would actually pay what they charge you. The difference between what is charged and what people pay is incredibly different.
i choose freedom over government screwing up yet another thing.
I refuse to comply, so lets go to jail! Not to mention the IRS will be enforcing this anal abortion of a law, and we know how "fair" they are. Brownshirts is all they are.
i support to repeal it!
outlawauron said:
The thing about these costs is that you would actually pay what they charge you. The difference between what is charged and what people pay is incredibly different. |
Fair enough, I'm sure there's a mark-up because of insurance, but I don't think I'd be getting them for $2.50 each like I do on insurance if I got them at cost. I don't know any monoclonal antibodies for research that are that cheap (and that's the only other circumstance in which I've ordered monoclonal antibodies) so I'd take a bet that they'd still cost me 100 bucks per shot even if I was getting the absolute fair price without insurance.
Thankfully the drug is still somewhat new so if I don't have insurance the company will actuallly give me the drug for cheap just so I don't become immune to it from not using it, but I presume that's not just out of the goodness of their hearts but in the hopes that I'll get on insurance soon and they can start charging what they were before.
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Torillian said:
Thankfully the drug is still somewhat new so if I don't have insurance the company will actuallly give me the drug for cheap just so I don't become immune to it from not using it, but I presume that's not just out of the goodness of their hearts but in the hopes that I'll get on insurance soon and they can start charging what they were before. |
There's a markup because of insurance, but the big one is that the hospitals float the cost of people who can't pay or don't have insurance onto those that do. Those who don't have insurance still don't go to free clinics or treatment centers (that's the problem where i live, not sure about the US as a whole) and so it only drives the cost up for those who can pay. People are just crazy if they think hospitals and insurance companies are going to make less money. They will find a way to make it up.
Augen said:
Thank you for your response, I would be one of those "no ones" interested as I think to solve a problem you have to identify the nature and causes of the problem. I feel similarily about the cost of tuitions at Universities. Both of these aspects of our culture have witnessed massive increases in cost over past 30 years and seem like have to hit a breaking point over next 30 years if they continue on. |
College University prices going up are pretty easy to identify... and just as hard to fix.
1) Just about anyone can get a college loan, to go to college. Which generally as a society we deem important because we think everyone should have an equal access to education, and we don't want the poor not being able to get into school because they can't pay.
2) The value of a college education has grown in the general public's eye from
A) College Education. For smart people.
B) College education, for a lot of good jobs, but there are plenty of union and trade jobs for other people.
C) College Education... mostly needed for a good job, but lots of good trade jobs out there... also service industry middle management.
D) College Edcuation... at this point you practically need one to be hired at an arbys!
So basically EVERYONE feels like they have to go to college, even if they did shitty in school. So everyone is willing to take out a huge loan to go to college, and the government is willing to provide loans to everyone... because they all want people to have equal access to education.
Limited supply+over demand = ridiculious prices... and the fact that the demand says super high because the government will give anybody a loan means prices will keep skyrocketing until they hit a point of where it's near impossible to pay it back even if your a success story.
There is little that can be done to really address this.
Kasz216 said:
1) Just about anyone can get a college loan, to go to college. Which generally as a society we deem important because we think everyone should have an equal access to education, and we don't want the poor not being able to get into school because they can't pay. 2) The value of a college education has grown in the general public's eye from A) College Education. For smart people. B) College education, for a lot of good jobs, but there are plenty of union and trade jobs for other people. C) College Education... mostly needed for a good job, but lots of good trade jobs out there... also service industry middle management. D) College Edcuation... at this point you practically need one to be hired at an arbys!
So basically EVERYONE feels like they have to go to college, even if they did shitty in school. So everyone is willing to take out a huge loan to go to college, and the government is willing to provide loans to everyone... because they all want people to have equal access to education.
Limited supply+over demand = ridiculious prices... and the fact that the demand says super high because the government will give anybody a loan means prices will keep skyrocketing until they hit a point of where it's near impossible to pay it back even if your a success story.
There is little that can be done to really address this. |
More targeting in high school of where exactly people want to go. More encouragement to get people who would be better for skilled trades into Vo-Tech schools.
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