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Mr Puggsly on 06 May 2013
maximus22 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
NiKKoM said:
I'm more upset with people claiming the quality went down because it went multiplatform.. They just need to see that their beloved company/franchise would have been equally crappy if it stayed exclusive

Nah, they would enjoy the games more solely because they're exclusive.

These are the same people that pretend Killzone, Uncharted, Journey, and MGS 4 are fun.

Funnily enough some people dislike games solely because they're exclusive.

These are the same people *ahem* that pretend Killzone, Uncharted, Journey and MGS4 are not fun.

People are less critical about the exclusives on their prefered console.

I'll tell you what, can we agree Killzone sucks?



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platformmaster918 on 06 May 2013

Kinda upset at first but Sony has picked up the slack since 09 with their first party and those will never go multiplat because they own the studios. The only big second party exclusives I like this gen were MGS4 and Heavy Rain. QD at least doesn't have any signs of going multiplat. Multiplats give people incentive to get your console of choice so you have more friends to enjoy it with and less people paying to play online so the model doesn't get as much credibility and become a standard.




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Areym on 06 May 2013
maximrace said:
ofcourse they are upset. Xbox fans would be upset too if gears went multiplat. It's a normal reaction although some are overeacting

Hear ye hear ye, the queen of PlayStation fanboys has spoken for all of us.

OT: To be honest, I was at first when games like RE, Star Ocean and Tekken became multiplat but I saw the PlayStation family grow a lot this gen and then I just accepted the fact that multiplatform is becoming the norm. It's a normal transition for most developers. More accessibility on their games means more sales and I'm not gonna stand between them and putting food on their tables for their families. 



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enditall727 on 06 May 2013
Ronster316 said:
enditall727 said:
Ronster316 said:
enditall727 said:

So you think that all those games on PlayStation were originslly going to be on Sega Saturn but Sony snatched up and forced money down their throats for them to be exclusive? got any links?

 

or are you talking about Nintendo?

 

Nah the majority just flocked to the ps1 because their vision was more suitable, a wider variety of new game experiences actually had a chance to flourish there and the ps1 was where the money was at 


oh....... look...... there's that word again........ MONEY.


Yep.. You have wonderful eyes..

 

Im shocked that you were actually able to see that i typed the word "money" 

 

Good job *claps*

 

Now umm.. Could you reread my comment and answer the questions?

 

Thanks ;)


Ok........ i'll answer your question.

Gaming companies (Nintendo, SEGA, Capcom, Konami, Namco, Tecmo etc) visions were already 3 steps ahead of sony (did sonys money help? well, im sure it did, prettier graphics and all those nothing but minor bells and whistles)

But gaming & "sony's vision" do not belong in the same sentence.

Gaming was heading in that direction anyway (the 3D etc)........ the world of innovation and vision in gaming was doing fine LONG before sony showed up, and gamings vision and innovation will continue long after sony are out of the gaming business.

I apologise if i sound a little agressive or angry............ sony just happen to always rub me up the wrong way.


Nah Sony talked about their vision in a PlayStation Underground special back in the day. They crafted their own market. Everything about PlayStation revolved around this vision. Nintendo always had this Child/kid image but Sony wanted their own market. The main driving force behind this vision was to target the 19 year old. They werent too old but werent too young either. It was a place for EVERYONE. They crafted that market and saw success that no other had seen on consoles. That market is the PlayStation market! and it is also the market that the Xbox is in right now.

 

There is really only 2 markets in the home console space and that is the Nintendo market and the PlayStation market.

 

there is more but i dont feel like looking for it on youtube



Weedlab on 06 May 2013

Couldn't care less. As long as my Sony exclusives stay exclusive to Sony platforms I am fine (ie Sony doesn't go the way of Sega). Third party should be multiplat, especially in this day and age.



 

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Ronster316 on 06 May 2013
brendude13 said:
Ronster316 said:

I apologise if i sound a little agressive or angry............ sony just happen to always rub me up the wrong way.

Believe me...we know.

Cut the quote trees guys.


Yup bren....... i apologise to you too, not the first time you have had to endure one of my sony rants

But you know i will not rest until justice is served.



Ronster316 on 06 May 2013
enditall727 said:
Ronster316 said:
enditall727 said:
Ronster316 said:
enditall727 said:
Ronster316 said:
enditall727 said:
Ronster316 said:
enditall727 said:
Ronster316 said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
Ronster316 said:

How many 1ST PARTY games did sony have when the ps1 first hit the market and up to a year following it's release?

Garbage like porsche challenge........ THATS WHAT. (don't start talking about Tekken, parappa the crapper and all that 2nd/3rd party nonsense)

Multiplatform games made sony what they are today....... well, those and a bottomless pit of money of course.

sony fans should not begrudge anybody anything considering the dodgy way they made it big in this business.

I like it how you limit the time frame to your taste. What is important is that even though Sony had complete control of console sells they still pushed forward and developed first party IPs during the PS1 and PS2 days, in spite of excerising complete domination over the competition:

Ape Escape

Jak & Daxter

Ico & SOTC

Grand Turismo

God of War

Syphon Filter

MediEvil

Killzone

Siren

And without counting second party offerings.

Games like God of War, Killzone (which is average anyway) and siren were around during the PS1 days? thats news to me.

Gran Turismo came out a good THREE years after the ps1's release.

Face facts.......... 3rd party developers saved sonys bacon during the ps1 days. (and sonys deep pockets)

Again....... the sony mob should NOT be complaining about 3rd party games going multiplatform.


Damn! Your engine is full today ;)

 

what do you mean they saved Sony? Wasnt that the smartest move developers could make back then being that Sony provided a platform for so many different types ogof games to flourish on like never before?

 


For the first 2-3 years of ps1's life minimum......... sonys 1ST party offerings were a pile of crud.

Sonys so called vision and innovations (or there lack of) did not change the landscape of videogames.

Also........ by many different type of games, i assume you are referring to mostly 3D?

Ever heard of Virtua Racing or Virtua Fighter? the world of videogames at that time was naturally moving towards a 3D playground anyway.

I will NOT give sony credit for ANYTHING positive that has happened in the world of videogames (well, nothing that matters to me anyway)


Nah, broski

 

The ps1 DEFINITELY catapulted this industry forward. The ps1 is a Sony product so therefore Sony gets the credit for that


See my "Chelsea & Manchester City" comment above.

So you think that all those games on PlayStation were originslly going to be on Sega Saturn but Sony snatched up and forced money down their throats for them to be exclusive? got any links?

 

or are you talking about Nintendo?

 

Nah the majority just flocked to the ps1 because their vision was more suitable, a wider variety of new game experiences actually had a chance to flourish there and the ps1 was where the money was at 


oh....... look...... there's that word again........ MONEY.


Yep.. You have wonderful eyes..

 

Im shocked that you were actually able to see that i typed the word "money" 

 

Good job *claps*

 

Now umm.. Could you reread my comment and answer the questions?

 

Thanks ;)


Ok........ i'll answer your question.

Gaming companies (Nintendo, SEGA, Capcom, Konami, Namco, Tecmo etc) visions were already 3 steps ahead of sony (did sonys money help? well, im sure it did, prettier graphics and all those nothing but minor bells and whistles)

But gaming & "sony's vision" do not belong in the same sentence.

Gaming was heading in that direction anyway (the 3D etc)........ the world of innovation and vision in gaming was doing fine LONG before sony showed up, and gamings vision and innovation will continue long after sony are out of the gaming business.

I apologise if i sound a little agressive or angry............ sony just happen to always rub me up the wrong way.


Nah Sony talked about their vision in a PlayStation Underground special back in the day. They crafted their own market. Everything about PlayStation revolved around this vision. Nintendo always had this Child/kid image but Sony wanted their own market. The main driving force behind this vision was to target the 19 year old. They werent too old but werent too young either. It was a place for EVERYONE. They crafted that market and saw success that no other had seen on consoles. That market is the PlayStation market! and it is also the market that the Xbox is in right now.

 

There is really only 2 markets in the home console space and that is the Nintendo market and the PlayStation market.

 

there is more but i dont feel like looking for it on youtube


Sorry dude............. but i can not give somebody credit for "targeting a market"

Besides, the market targeting thing had been done by SEGA beforehand with the "cooler and edgier than Nintendo" theme.

sony did NOT innovate or have visions in my eyes, just marketing bigwigs with money to throw around.



Ronster316 on 06 May 2013

@ enditall........... welcome to SEGA's marketing......... http://www.infendo.com/sega-returns-to-form-edgy-marketing-in-full-effect/

Marketing does not= innovation.

have a good day folks......... bed time here.



maximus22 on 06 May 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
maximus22 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
NiKKoM said:
I'm more upset with people claiming the quality went down because it went multiplatform.. They just need to see that their beloved company/franchise would have been equally crappy if it stayed exclusive

Nah, they would enjoy the games more solely because they're exclusive.

These are the same people that pretend Killzone, Uncharted, Journey, and MGS 4 are fun.

Funnily enough some people dislike games solely because they're exclusive.

These are the same people *ahem* that pretend Killzone, Uncharted, Journey and MGS4 are not fun.

People are less critical about the exclusives on their prefered console.

I'll tell you what, can we agree Killzone sucks?


Very true.  Well the only Killzone I've played is Kz 2.  While it wasn't on my favorites list by any stretch, it certainly didn't suck.  The same could be said of lots of games, exclusive or otherwise.  However, I will concede that the following sony exclusives suck: Modnation racers, Haze and Warhawk (which I really wanted to like but just couldn't).



Nem on 06 May 2013

Fans should be upset with Sony for having dropped the ball. Microsoft just took advantage of it.