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http://kotaku.com/hints-of-a-next-gen-xbox-tv-strategy-a-multiplayer-qua-472072240

About Microsoft Being 'Six Months' Behind With the Next Xbox...

 

My article on Monday about Respawn Entertainment's first post-Call of Duty game, a sci-fi multiplayer shooter, coming exclusively to the current and next-gen Xbox consoles, turned some heads. So did the part of the piece about Microsoft falling behind with their next-gen machine.

 

That latter bit has become a thing of its own, separate from the Respawn news, which I should remind you is not officially announced but comes from two unrelated, good industry sources (I heard from a third source, who said he'd heard rumors of that Microsoft exclusively plan earlier this year).

 

Putting the Respawn thing aside for the moment, let's focus on the Microsoft next-gen woes bit. This is what I had written, emphasis added for your scanning convenience:

 

We've heard from other sources that Microsoft is not where they want to be at this point in the pre-launch development of Durango. A reliable source—one who was not part of our reporting about the Respawn game—tells us that Microsoft is as much as six months behind in producing content for the new console, despite an expected late-2013 launch. Another tells us that Microsoft recently cancelled several internal next-gen projects because they were not coming together as hoped. These sources have told us that, comparatively, Sony is in better shape and further along with hardware and software development for PlayStation 4.We'd also heard from an industry insider that Microsoft was aggressively trying to sign exclusive games for Durango. Given the lack of internal development at Microsoft—their internal studios, while talented, are outnumbered by those of Sony and Nintendo—and given some of the apparent recent stumbles and slowdowns internally, signing an exclusive Respawn-EA game would suit the Durango quite well.

 

I don't have more news for you on that today. Sorry! But I wanted to expand on that a little.

 

First, bear in mind that we're at least six months—probably even a little bit longer—out from the release of the new Xbox, code-named Durango. We're not even going to be getting official word about it until May 21, most likely. We'd heard official word about the PS4 in February. Did that alone indicate that Sony was ahead? Not necessarily.

 

The impression my Kotaku colleagues and I have long had was that the next consoles from Microsoft and Sony are going down roughly parallel paths and have both been in the works for a while. We've been hearing specifics—not just vague plans but details shared between Microsoft and outsiders—about this new Xbox system since early 2012. We broke news of the codenames for the next Xbox (Durango) and PlayStation (Orbis) in February and March of that year, respectively. While the latter name actually appeared online the December before, the impression we've long had is that Durango and Orbis were aiming for the same part of the calendar. Microsoft and Sony both want you to be able to buy a new console as soon as this Christmas.

 

Over the past year, I've heard from industry sources who've been variously impressed with Sony and Microsoft's plans, though, of late, Sony gets the better buzz and Microsoft is deemed as somewhat scattered. Frankly, I'd be surprised if Sony wasn't scattered in its own way but, yes, lately, Microsoft is generating a little more head-shaking among my and my colleagues' industry sources. You can see some of that articulated in the chunk I lifted from my Monday article about Respawn.

 

With the Orbis and Durango on nearly parallel tracks, comparisons for people who know about both consoles are easy to make. PS4 controllers start popping up at development studios in February, but Durango ones show up in March/April? Easy comparison to make.

 

Microsoft seems less certain about how to proceed, sources tell us. They don't seem as ready for a launch as you'd expect them to be. It sort of makes sense, if you think of Microsoft riding high on the Kinect-fueled success of the Xbox 360 in recent years. Still, they did launch their last console, the 360, in 2005, a year before Sony and Nintendo's PS3 and Wii.

 

One reliable source compares Microsoft's current Durango moment to the situation with the Wii U, which launched without a key promised launch service and with a scant number of exclusive games. Remember the Wii U? Expect something kind of like that for the next Xbox, they say. At least in terms of how it's looking now. So much can change. And it's never easy to make a console. I'd expect all console launches to be like the Wii U's. Because they always are.

 

That's the thing to remember: these consoles never launch all that well. They always launch with a tiny number of games worth having and a great amount of ports and padded content to convince you that there are enough games out on day one to merit that day one purchase. This happened with the Xbox 360, with the PS3, with the Wii U. This is how it goes. The console makers' marketing team tries to play it cool, but these consoles come in hot. You wind up, as I did, with a brand-new Xbox 360 and the only game you want to play on it is a retro-arcade game called Geometry Wars. A year later, at last, the likes of Oblivion and Gears of Warhave blown you away. But they're not there at the start. Nor are many of the services, like Netflix, that the console is known for.

 

All that said, the "six month" thing I reported has stuck out. What's it mean? It means, as best I understand it, that we'll see Durango launch like the Wii U did. It means developers—internally and third-party—haven't had a ton of time with development hardware. It means that, as I've been told, the games aren't where they need to be and even the machine's operating system isn't up to snuff yet. Nintendo may have some problems unique to Nintendo, but if you thought Wii U's ungraceful launch was just a Nintendo thing, think again. (Christmas 2013 with a maturing Wii U and newborn PS4 and next-gen Xbox just might look a little different than Nintendo naysayers expected.)

 

On May 21, Microsoft will at least probably catch up to Sony in terms of publicly, officially-disclosed information. They may, by then, have a clear message that they can express about everything from online requirements to Xbox Live's new systems to the presence or lack of backwards compatibility for older games. Right now you can safely assume that things are a little confused and stressful on the Durango project. This doesn't mean Durango will suck. It doesn't mean PS4 will automatically be better. But it may effect what we're told by Microsoft, what kind of games will show up on launch day and whether the next-gen of gaming will be something you'll want to get involved with this year.

 

As we know more, we'll let you know. Please remember, console launches tend to be more hype than happiness. It's reasonable to keep your long-term expectations for the next Xbox or any other console high, if you'd like, but in a new-console year, you'd best set your short-term expectations low.



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Got to be honest.....those are some troubling reports

I'll wait and see.

I earned "Proof of Omega", killed the FF7 Weapons, attained "Big Boss" in the "Patriots", found and killed the Red Chocobo in FFXII, platinumed Killzone 2 and LBP. What you got bitch!? Huh?

I'm patient enough to wait for MS to take their time with the next Xbox. It's all rumours at the moment.



BenVTrigger said:
Got to be honest.....those are some troubling reports


I wouldn't worry about it too much, sounds likely that at worst it just won't have a stellar launch window and could start slow out the gate because of that.  I don't think it's likely to have any long lasting effects on the platform.  



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Libara said:
I'm patient enough to wait for MS to take their time with the next Xbox.


That's cool, but the article is talking about Micro not being patient with it and taking necessary time and launching Fusion Infinity prematurely. But, this guy could be right, or wrong, right?



I earned "Proof of Omega", killed the FF7 Weapons, attained "Big Boss" in the "Patriots", found and killed the Red Chocobo in FFXII, platinumed Killzone 2 and LBP. What you got bitch!? Huh?

This is pretty much what I was thinking recently and especially after IGNs first article on this.

MS has had various obstacles that have impaired their readiness to launch. I don't think they'll repeat the RROD issue, but I do think they will be more like Wii U in having a very limited number of exclusive titles.

However, they will have one large difference, the fact that both of their competitors are already out and therefore 3rd parties will already have various cross-platform games hitting next-gen where Wii U was very limited / none for its first quarter.

I also don't see MS having the same overall issue with its OS and additional features considering its built on Win8 and likely utilizing many of the exact same systems as X360. Maybe a new feature will be lacking, but it will at least start with a robust system where Nintendo's was 100% new in the Wii U.

BenVTrigger said:
Got to be honest.....those are some troubling reports

They are indeed! But it wouldn't be the first troubled launch of a console ;) But as I read it it can't be true that all first-party-titles are 6 month behind. And remember it has almost the same 3rd-party-support as PS4 so it will definitely have a better launch than Wiiu.

 

I am still looking forward to 21st!



Torillian said:
BenVTrigger said:
Got to be honest.....those are some troubling reports


I wouldn't worry about it too much, sounds likely that at worst it just won't have a stellar launch window and could start slow out the gate because of that.  I don't think it's likely to have any long lasting effects on the platform.  

Would be no worse than the beginnings of the 360, if that's the case.



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Torillian said:
BenVTrigger said:
Got to be honest.....those are some troubling reports


I wouldn't worry about it too much, sounds likely that at worst it just won't have a stellar launch window and could start slow out the gate because of that.  I don't think it's likely to have any long lasting effects on the platform.  


The only part that really worries me is hearing theres so much confusion within MS over what exactly to do with the new console. That they are pretty scatterbrained at the moment.

Its just rumors again so could be false but this one actually worries me more than most the others as it sounds like MS themselves dont have a clear vision for the console