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PS4 - 82 Million

Xbox(NXTGen) - 55 Million

Wii U - 103 Million



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Flanneryaug said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
Flanneryaug said:
I don't get why people think that the PS4 is going to do incredibly well. The most powerful console hasn't won since the 4th generation, because most consumers don't care about graphics. Also, we are still lacking a lot of information about the PS4, like how much will it cost. Most people that got a PS3 got one later into the 7th gen, and aren't likely to buy its successor for a couple of years.

Because the Playstation has always dominated and has picked up track with the PS3's last years. We all know how things went with the PS3 already and why it ended where it did. Micro did a good job at taking advantage of circumstances, Nintendo did a great job at grabbing people who usually don't play video games. Now Nintendo is in their usual place of previous generation and the battle of first place will be decided by which console between the PS4 and NextBox gets a hold of the gamers that are willing to shift between consoles. like those that changed PS for Xbox, and those that grab new gamers. Unless global warming gets even worse and dwindles the market.

The fact that the PS3 picked up traction in the last few years is why I think the PS4 will have a slow start. People that just spent around $300 on a console recently aren't likely to buy a PS4 early on. The ones that bought a PS3 around launch might, but there weren't many of those people.

I agree with the comments you've made in this thread.

So far as the OP is concerned, I would guess as follows

PS3 80 mil

Xnet 75 mil

WiiU 70 mil

I think PS now has more fans worldwide than any other console so that will be reflected in the sales. I think MS keep pace with Sony for most of the generation but the greater number of Sony fan will cause the PS4 to win out in the end. Nintendo will survive on its strong 1st party games and a few new IPs that always keep the WiiU selling. The WiiU will also manage to get more important 3rd party support, which will help out as well.



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PS4 will sell 150m while WiiU and neXtbox will share 20m



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fillet said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:

Based on the lack of information we have had on the NextBox. Very slow start to Wii U sales as consumers wait for the other systems to arrive  on the market. PS4  information has been very positive and the PS4 has specifications that the NextBox can only dream they could match. You can safely put your house on that the PS4 will comfortably outsell the NextBox and WiiU. I believe the PS4 will outsell their competitors like they did during the PS2 generation. Most consumers will want PS4 as it is the best system and has the best games. Limited information on the NextBox and the WiiU is not really selling.

My Ltd sales predictions for the three systems will be as follows:

150 million PS4

70 million NextBox

80 million WiiU. 

Anyway do you guys also believe the PS4 will outsell both Wii U and NextBox by a huge margin?


I'm sorry but this is a terrible OP. Seriously, with all due respect and you're entitled to your opinion as we all are but how can you come to such a judgement when no information has been released on the Nextbox, sure the PS4 is looking very positive right now and I'll be getting one for sure but just like you I'm not exactly in the majority segment of the potential market where "8GB GDDR RAM" induces wetting of pants for example.

I find your OP highly biased because you simply have no evidence to backup what your predications at all. In fact it looks like a troll post more than anything, unless you would like to substantiate it a bit more it's nothing more than baseless opinion. I could easily formulate an OP to put the Nextbox at top or the Wii-U.

Wii had nintendo first party support and it sold big time with no specs.

Xbox 360 is still ahead of PS3 with virtually no 1st party support outside of Kinect in the last 2-3 years and has an inferior CPU allegedly.

Those two of the top of my head with no thinking basically invalidate your OP.

Hope you don't take this the wrong way and I'm not being too personal but you really need more than that to convince people.

1. We all know why the Wii sold well and it fell off a cliff these past few years becuase of that very reason.

2. 360 had a year headstart and the price advantage. Microsoft did a good job of establishing this console into the market before Sony released the PS3. That's something that couldn't be overcome no matter how powerful the PS3s Cell processor was and how good games like Uncharted and Killzone may be.

If you look at what we know of next-gen consoles, its that they will both launch at the same time(probably weeks apart), they will be about the same price, and they will have big AAA games at launch. Is it really that crazy to assume that PS4 will outsell the next XBox? Seems like a safe prediction to me.



Andrespetmonkey said:
ChristianSoldier said:
Also, people seem to be underestimating a First party nintendo game's selling power

Not really. I mean, they're some of the biggest sellers you could ask for, but they aren't miracle workers. Look at Gamecube (22M) or N64 (32M)... both show Nintendo consoles can't sell themselves on Nintendo software alone. I see a similar but slightly better fate for Wii U (which isn't necessarily bad).

that's a fallacy. by that logic, ps3 would have sold 200 million. N64 had nearly 0 multiplats and gamecube faced the extreme popularity of ps2 that even had a year headstart. The fact is that the market is much different now than 10 or 15 years ago and yes, nintendo's first party do have a huge hardware selling power. much higher than on the 5th and 6th gen.



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ps4 120mills
xbox720 110mills
wii U 50mills



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Based on what is known it will quickly attain a 50% market share and end up at 65-70%. It is known.



No one knows.



Unrealistic numbers you have, but yes I believe PS4 will outsell both. I don't see WiiU ever passing 50m, Nextbox will lose some of its market to PS4 but still sell over 60-70m, PS4 will sell more than 80m lifetime.

 

(I have lower numbers than most people because I believe the market is gonna retract to 6th gen levels due to shorter gen and no console thats gonna be a hype like the Wii.



Zero999 said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
ChristianSoldier said:
Also, people seem to be underestimating a First party nintendo game's selling power

Not really. I mean, they're some of the biggest sellers you could ask for, but they aren't miracle workers. Look at Gamecube (22M) or N64 (32M)... both show Nintendo consoles can't sell themselves on Nintendo software alone. I see a similar but slightly better fate for Wii U (which isn't necessarily bad).

that's a fallacy. by that logic, ps3 would have sold 200 million. N64 had nearly 0 multiplats and gamecube faced the extreme popularity of ps2 that even had a year headstart. The fact is that the market is much different now than 10 or 15 years ago and yes, nintendo's first party do have a huge hardware selling power. much higher than on the 5th and 6th gen.

The higher the installed base the higher the chance of profitability no matter which platform. Nintendo has a legion of fans, but the casuals they acquired with the Wii mostly bought bundles.