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happydolphin on 15 April 2013
Lawlight said:
happydolphin said:

This gen could very well be the gen where 3rd parties plummet and Nintendo and indie games are the only viable business platforms in the industry.

Certain "journalists" will bash Nintendo because it gives them a sense of joy to put down what the inner-circle rejects. But in the end, the WiiU will hit a mass-market price with a DS-like library and it will hit them in the face just how wrong they are. The only problem is, I'm not sure they have the intelligence to realize they're been and will continue to be wrong.

Also, their big argument is the ability to subsidize the price over a subscription. It doesn't take a supercomputer to offer that service.


The GameCube hit mass market really quickly and still failed to sell.

Nintendo didn't know how to sell games that appealed to a mass market then. See bold.

The times have changed.



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zumnupy10 on 15 April 2013
Th3PANO said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Th3PANO said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Well the laughing part was somewhat silly perhaps, but the Wii U is kind of irrelevant in terms of 3rd party support when compared to the PS4 and 720, which is what they were laughing at.


they also talked about wii u not really being next gen, so i guess ps 2 wasn't next gen back then?

I don't think the difference in specs between the Xbox/Gamecube and the PS2 is of the same magnitude as the difference between Wii and PS3/360 or Wii U and PS4/720. The last comparison still needs to be confirmed when 720 specs are released and PS4 confirmed, but the Wii one for sure.

doesn't change the fact that 3rd party titles looked much worse on ps 2. yes, they don't get 3rd party support from ea. many others. but nobody even mentions the indy developers where nintendo is really doing a great job lately. more so then microsoft and sony to be honest. more and more aaa developers will fall.

1º You know difference between PS2/GC/Xbox isn't the same as PS4/X720/WiiU.

2º  MS and Sony do far more than Nintendo for the Indie comunity than Nintendo.  Sony and Nintendo can't match the XBLA offers right now.



Train wreck on 15 April 2013
zumnupy10 said:
Th3PANO said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Th3PANO said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Well the laughing part was somewhat silly perhaps, but the Wii U is kind of irrelevant in terms of 3rd party support when compared to the PS4 and 720, which is what they were laughing at.


they also talked about wii u not really being next gen, so i guess ps 2 wasn't next gen back then?

I don't think the difference in specs between the Xbox/Gamecube and the PS2 is of the same magnitude as the difference between Wii and PS3/360 or Wii U and PS4/720. The last comparison still needs to be confirmed when 720 specs are released and PS4 confirmed, but the Wii one for sure.

doesn't change the fact that 3rd party titles looked much worse on ps 2. yes, they don't get 3rd party support from ea. many others. but nobody even mentions the indy developers where nintendo is really doing a great job lately. more so then microsoft and sony to be honest. more and more aaa developers will fall.

1º You know difference between PS2/GC/Xbox isn't the same as PS4/X720/WiiU.

2º  MS and Sony do far more than Nintendo for the Indie comunity than Nintendo.  Sony and Nintendo can't match the XBLA offers right now.

I agree, I cant see how people can say with a striaght face that Nintendo's online efforts for indie and their own services somehow leaped frog Sony and especially Microsoft.



happydolphin on 15 April 2013
Train wreck said:
zumnupy10 said:

1º You know difference between PS2/GC/Xbox isn't the same as PS4/X720/WiiU.

2º  MS and Sony do far more than Nintendo for the Indie comunity than Nintendo.  Sony and Nintendo can't match the XBLA offers right now.

I agree, I cant see how people can say with a striaght face that Nintendo's online efforts for indie and their own services somehow leaped frog Sony and especially Microsoft.

I'm telling you with a straight face that it wasn't too long ago Braid creator Jonathan Blow bashed Microsoft's approach to indie development.

You could say Sony is doing well, but Nintendo is publishing and helping to release some indie games as well, so you may be ignoring some truth when judging Nintendo. He didn't say leap frog, he just said they're doing a great job and better than Sony and MS. He is probably wrong, but you're saying the contrary so he's not being completely unreasonable here if you're putting one over the other yourself.



ShadowSoldier on 15 April 2013

I laughed too....I hated Motion gaming but it was a big hit last gen...you could see the arrogance Nintendo was giving off, it was Pre-Ps3 launch Sony levels. Im glad that Ninty hasn't hit the same numbers they were expecting. Next time they shouldn't be so cheap while relying on gimmicks to sell games



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BluGamer23 on 15 April 2013
RolStoppable said:
They don't even realize what's going to hit them. Nintendo's self-destruction will also have an effect on their beloved companies, because now there isn't going to be a platform where third parties can rake in the cash with cheaply produced games. Money that was used to subsidize development for the 360 and PS3 until these systems had big enough installed bases to become self-sustaining. Admittedly, some publishers never really reached that point and continued to incur losses.

The upcoming transitional period is going to be tough for third parties. Activision is about the only Western publisher who has a reliable cash cow in Call of Duty. EA sells 10m+ copies of FIFA each year, but that's still not good enough to make a profit overall. The software markets on the 360 and PS3 are on the decline and it will take at least a couple of years before the Nextbox and PS4 truly get going. This time there is no DS and Wii. Mobile isn't going to pick up the slack, because consumers are conditioned to expect free games.


.. just echoing your post! !!

its gonna fun to watch! .. nextgen hasnt fully started yet.. and already too many laid off.. companies shutting down..  who will be left to develop those glorious omgz graphics! ..   all the while trying to make a profit from consoles with ZERO install base!.. woooo! *smirk *smirk



 

 

Mythmaker1 on 15 April 2013

They're not being vindictive, they're being dismissive.

As far as the majority of gaming journalists goes, the Wii U is a JOKE, not without good reason. And until Nintendo does something about that, it will continue to be a joke.



I believe in honesty, civility, generosity, practicality, and impartiality.

badgenome on 15 April 2013
spurgeonryan said:

Are you talking about the fact that America was to blame for World War 2?

WTF?

He was talking about the gaming industry crashing in the '80s, you strange man.



sethnintendo on 15 April 2013
spurgeonryan said:
Th3PANO said:

western arrogance will one day lead to another crisis, like the last time.


Are you talking about the fact that America was to blame for World War 2?

 

I think they should be reprimanded. Is this a big issue, or is the OP the only one who noticed or cared?



Come on Spurge.... He was referring to the first video game crash in the 80s which was caused by the American company Atari.



sethnintendo on 15 April 2013
badgenome said:
spurgeonryan said:

Are you talking about the fact that America was to blame for World War 2?

WTF?

He was talking about the gaming industry crashing in the '80s, you strange man.



Damn, you are just too fast.