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Weedlab on 04 April 2013

Oh please. Sony can go tend to those hardcore and non casual gamers with their 'all about the games' focus . I'm sticking with MSFT and their Kinect focus. At least they're interested in creating a system for me to play with gran ma, gran pa, and auntie Jane when they come over.



 

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Hynad on 04 April 2013
JayWood2010 said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
JayWood2010 said:
SENTIENT6 said:
JayWood2010 said:

Leave it to Somini to find the worst articles on the internet.

Well back to playing BattleBlock Theater


Why because it doesn't praise ms?



First off i agree with Veknoid.

Second off, no. It is poorly written and ignores many facts inlcuding that the casual market has paid off not to mention that MSFT and Nintendo also has a heavy harcore crowd.  Then they ignore that Sony has tried with casuals as well but hey the move doesnt exist right ;)  in fact the new PS eye for PS4 doesnt exist right?  Lets just ignore that kinect and the Wiimote has been succerssful. Lets also ignore that MSFT and Nintendo hardcore titles has been a raging success.  Oh and lets also ignore that 3rd party has also sold better on the X360 and Nintendo.  Lets just ignore facts and voice our opinions as if they were facts.

And that is why. Somini is starting to be well known on this site for putting out poorly written opinion pieces and overly negative articles in the last few weeks.  maybe he should write his own instead of searching for them.


and why you need to bring this every thread somini does or posts? second time i see you hate on the dude today, you can see the name of the person who makes the thread, if you dont like somini dont come to his threads. its that simple

"Somini is starting to be well known on this site for putting out poorly written opinion pieces"

 

oh realy ?


Actually it is the first thread Ive commented in his threads.  My other comment towards him was in my thread.  Go through my post history and notice that ive ignored his threads all together.  And yes I stand behind what I said.  He has clearly been looking for these type of articles and all it is doing is making this site look bad for having articles like this on it.  

Your post history is filled with over-sensitive replies whenever someone is negative towards MS. You don't react like this when the negativity is about Sony or Nintendo.  Even if you like to pretend like you have no bias...

Still, the article is premature.



Veknoid_Outcast on 04 April 2013
Zkuq said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

What a condescending article.

"Leaving Sony as the sole console developer to tend to hardcore gamers now."

If Sony wants them, Sony can have them. From my experience self-described hardcore gamers are immature, parochial, and elitist.

I believe you missed the point. This article isn't, strictly speaking, about hardcore gamers, it's about those gamers that aren't casual gamers. Not all of them are those vocal gamers you see on forums like this.

I guess I just object to the term. "Hardcore gamer." It's embarrassing. Do fans of other media use such terms?

Of course we all have our favorite series, genres, and platforms, but dividing fans into opposing camps called "hardcore" and "casual" is one of the worst things we can do as a community of enthusiasts. We should be united in our love for video games. I know Wii is a dirty word to some here, but it opened up the world of video games to so many new people; it democratized gaming. I can only speak for myself but I want more and more people to understand and appreciate the medium I enjoy so much.



Chandler on 04 April 2013

I'm casul

 



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thehusbo on 04 April 2013
Argh_College said:
Yup and most Hardcore Gamers are on Xbox 360 playing on Xbox Live and NOT on Psn.

Ps3 players = living of brand name

Xbox players = Hardcore guys that spend 24/7 on a game they want to be good, thats why only Xbox enters in Pro Competitions like MLG, ESL and more... Ps3 is left in the Dust.

Pc Players = Most Hardcore guys on the freaking Planet.

So Xbox is in the middle, Ps3 cant be hardcore with that online and ZERO competition around the globe and Pc is a true hardcore platform.

Microsoft did right in turn their focus to Casual Audience, Hardcore Gamers are a niche these days, there are alot but Casual Gamers are gazilions.


Ye you're right. All us ps3 players are living off of a brand name. Nothing to do with the superior set of exclusive games, the quality of the console or nothing like that. Sorry we can't all be as hardcore as you cool guys on Xbox playing call of duty 24/7. 



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S.T.A.G.E. on 04 April 2013
Veknoid_Outcast said:

What a condescending article.

"Leaving Sony as the sole console developer to tend to hardcore gamers now."

If Sony wants them, Sony can have them. From my experience self-described hardcore gamers are immature, parochial, and elitist.


I dunno, Sony and Valve are the only two companies that have been tending to the core for the past four years (or more).



walsufnir on 04 April 2013
Somini said:
IamAwsome said:

This is a terrible article. 

First off, they talk as if it's completely IMPOSSIBLE to appeal to both the hardcore and casual demographics. Microsoft sucessfully appealed to both demographics with the 360/Kinect. They did it, no matter how you spin it. The author also bashes all motion controls calling them gimmicks, and doesn't appear to even like local multiplayer??? (He also said "on a motion free next gen console" bullshit) He also bashes microtransactions, even though big publishers like EA are embracing them, so does that make them casual too? 

Microsoft is all about casuals now, they cared for the hardcore but that changed once Kinect came along.


You know now what MS with NextBox is about? Interesting. I recently read about PSeye, sharing features, next PS more social, aiming for the central device of the living room... sounds somehow not so hardcore...



Wright on 04 April 2013

Shhhh. Don't turn this into whatever you're turning this into, people. Let us agree and disagree with logical explanations and reasonable arguments; but don't start spreading lies and stereotypes as usual.

I have nothing to say regarding the article, though.



S.T.A.G.E. on 04 April 2013
walsufnir said:
Somini said:
IamAwsome said:

This is a terrible article. 

First off, they talk as if it's completely IMPOSSIBLE to appeal to both the hardcore and casual demographics. Microsoft sucessfully appealed to both demographics with the 360/Kinect. They did it, no matter how you spin it. The author also bashes all motion controls calling them gimmicks, and doesn't appear to even like local multiplayer??? (He also said "on a motion free next gen console" bullshit) He also bashes microtransactions, even though big publishers like EA are embracing them, so does that make them casual too? 

Microsoft is all about casuals now, they cared for the hardcore but that changed once Kinect came along.


You know now what MS with NextBox is about? Interesting. I recently read about PSeye, sharing features, next PS more social, aiming for the central device of the living room... sounds somehow not so hardcore...

Sony has been aiming for the center of the living room before Microsoft came. The difference between Sony and Microsoft is actually quite simple to understand. They dont let the first and second party games get overshadowed by the functionality of the console.



HappyHenry on 04 April 2013

Sony are after the casual market as well .Have you not seen the new controller with move built in and the new camera or do you define those as hardcore.