Jay520 said:
Desertghost said:
You made a very fine point mentioning polygamy, If they make gay marrigae legal then why not make poligamous marriages legal aswell? if its all about rights and equality. Make that legal too whatever you might say, but when will it stop?
We live in society that the only moral principle is: "If it dosen't physically hurt anyone, then why not"? That's it. Think about it. People expect you to be "open-minded" about everything now.
The question is: "what will be our base for moral principals?"
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Same argument could have been applied to interacial marriage.
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I'm sure a similar argument was probably made back then. I don't really remember the bias arguments that where used by the defense attourneys in the day, but I'm sure those bias arguments resonated to a lot of people back then. One does not change hearts & minds in a matter or years. It takes decades & generations of people who think differently than their parents/grandparents. For us now, marriage between different ethnicities seems normal, but it wasn't so 50+ years ago. I don't know what the judges will decide, but from what I hear 5 of them seem to be leaning toward granting some time of right to homosexual couples.
It might come down to a state vs federal government issue where the government should respect the right of the state to decide for themselves to legalize it or not. If this is the case, I probably would support that decisision. However, there are a few states like mine (California) who voted to redefine the word marriage between a man and a woman. (prop 8) If the judges decide to let the states decide, then that would be bad for California gay residents. I'm sure they will appeal and probably try to repeal it though.
As a catholic, I never viewed marriage by the state as marriage. It's suppost to be a civil union, and that civil union was basically performed for legal reasons in case of death or personal hardship/inharitance. People just called it marriage, by default, but I never viewed it that way.
Now, I don't see a reason why the goverment does not recognize civil unions for homosexual couples of one state, if they recognize the ones from heterosexual couples from that said state if they are both legal in that state. (that is the definition of discrimination) And that is the argument being presented to the supreme court--I believe.
I'm basically neutral in this verdict, but I'll be lying if I said that granting all those gay couples some happiness wouldn't bring a smile to my face.