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The Nintendo fans sound like Ps3 fans at the begining.

"Sales will pick up after X"
"Sales will pick up after Y"
"Sales will pick up after Z"

The fact of the matter is, if you are relying on a game you will be sorely disappointed. Even GTA4 didn't do much for the Ps3. Even MGS4 didn't do much for the Ps3. GTA sells as much as Nintendo's best franchises. MGS sells a little less but is still a massive seller.

If you are relying on a price drop you will be disappointed. The Wii U isn't unaffordable. A price drop might help like the first one helped the Ps3. However, in the Ps3's case it still had a high price point and could look forward to price reduction again. Nintendo is already losing money on the Wii U. One thing Nintendo isn't as good as Sony with is reducing costs of their system. Why? because they already use cheap components that have little room for getting cheaper. As time drags on they will get cheaper but definitely not at the same pace as new technology. So they drop the price of the Wii U... the price reduction will be more than the cost reduction. Then when will they be able to drop it again?

Okay, let's say that a price reduction and games do something unprecedented. MGS4 increased sales by 141%. GTA increased it by 80%. 299 price point increased it by 80% the 499 pice point increased it by 52%. We also know that no single thing really sustained sales. But lets pretend that everything works out for the Wii U. It gets a measly 50 dollar drop and somehow attracts people. Let's say Mario releases and it attracts people. Okay, let's say it gets a bigger increase than anything the Ps3 received AND it sustains sales.... well, the best we are looking at is still something under 100k a week. 32k (initial sales) x 3 (200%) = 96k. This is also using current sales. Sales may even drop lower than this.

I can see Wii U selling less than 6 million this calendar year. It all really depends when Nintendo cuts the price. But if they wait till sometime like E3 it wont be good for them.



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It's too early to doom PS4.

3DS = price drop and release of MK7 and SM3D Land.

So not the drama.

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sethnintendo said:
3DS = price drop and release of MK7 and SM3D Land.



3ds was never at 30k a week and dropping. I'll look for the smallest weekly sales for the Wii U



Max King of the Wild said:

The Nintendo fans sound like Ps3 fans at the begining.

"Sales will pick up after X"
"Sales will pick up after Y"
"Sales will pick up after Z"

The fact of the matter is, if you are relying on a game you will be sorely disappointed. Even GTA4 didn't do much for the Ps3. Even MGS4 didn't do much for the Ps3. GTA sells as much as Nintendo's best franchises. MGS sells a little less but is still a massive seller.

If you are relying on a price drop you will be disappointed. The Wii U isn't unaffordable. A price drop might help like the first one helped the Ps3. However, in the Ps3's case it still had a high price point and could look forward to price reduction again. Nintendo is already losing money on the Wii U. One thing Nintendo isn't as good as Sony with is reducing costs of their system. Why? because they already use cheap components that have little room for getting cheaper. As time drags on they will get cheaper but definitely not at the same pace as new technology. So they drop the price of the Wii U... the price reduction will be more than the cost reduction. Then when will they be able to drop it again?

Okay, let's say that a price reduction and games do something unprecedented. MGS4 increased sales by 141%. GTA increased it by 80%. 299 price point increased it by 80% the 499 pice point increased it by 52%. We also know that no single thing really sustained sales. But lets pretend that everything works out for the Wii U. It gets a measly 50 dollar drop and somehow attracts people. Let's say Mario releases and it attracts people. Okay, let's say it gets a bigger increase than anything the Ps3 received AND it sustains sales.... well, the best we are looking at is still something under 100k a week. 32k (initial sales) x 3 (200%) = 96k. This is also using current sales. Sales may even drop lower than this.

I can see Wii U selling less than 6 million this calendar year. It all really depends when Nintendo cuts the price. But if they wait till sometime like E3 it wont be good for them.


Is this the definition of someone trying to act like they know what they are talking about? What exactly are those games Ninty fans are saying wait for? All I see is them saying wait for some games. GTA is big but there is a difference between that and Mario. One is exclusive, so obviously the boost is much bigger, and please dont compare MGS to Nintys top tier, they are not in the same league.



phenom08 said:
Max King of the Wild said:

The Nintendo fans sound like Ps3 fans at the begining.

"Sales will pick up after X"
"Sales will pick up after Y"
"Sales will pick up after Z"

The fact of the matter is, if you are relying on a game you will be sorely disappointed. Even GTA4 didn't do much for the Ps3. Even MGS4 didn't do much for the Ps3. GTA sells as much as Nintendo's best franchises. MGS sells a little less but is still a massive seller.

If you are relying on a price drop you will be disappointed. The Wii U isn't unaffordable. A price drop might help like the first one helped the Ps3. However, in the Ps3's case it still had a high price point and could look forward to price reduction again. Nintendo is already losing money on the Wii U. One thing Nintendo isn't as good as Sony with is reducing costs of their system. Why? because they already use cheap components that have little room for getting cheaper. As time drags on they will get cheaper but definitely not at the same pace as new technology. So they drop the price of the Wii U... the price reduction will be more than the cost reduction. Then when will they be able to drop it again?

Okay, let's say that a price reduction and games do something unprecedented. MGS4 increased sales by 141%. GTA increased it by 80%. 299 price point increased it by 80% the 499 pice point increased it by 52%. We also know that no single thing really sustained sales. But lets pretend that everything works out for the Wii U. It gets a measly 50 dollar drop and somehow attracts people. Let's say Mario releases and it attracts people. Okay, let's say it gets a bigger increase than anything the Ps3 received AND it sustains sales.... well, the best we are looking at is still something under 100k a week. 32k (initial sales) x 3 (200%) = 96k. This is also using current sales. Sales may even drop lower than this.

I can see Wii U selling less than 6 million this calendar year. It all really depends when Nintendo cuts the price. But if they wait till sometime like E3 it wont be good for them.


Is this the definition of someone trying to act like they know what they are talking about? What exactly are those games Ninty fans are saying wait for? All I see is them saying wait for some games. GTA is big but there is a difference between that and Mario. One is exclusive, so obviously the boost is much bigger, and please dont compare MGS to Nintys top tier, they are not in the same league.

If you don't see nintendo fans saying wait for games then you are blind



Nintendo knows what has to be done...

I have every confidence that a relaunch at the end of march, a sustained marketing run, new bundling and the rushing of big software for the holiday will spur on sales.

10 million seems very possible for the end of 2013.


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Max King of the Wild said:
phenom08 said:
Max King of the Wild said:

The Nintendo fans sound like Ps3 fans at the begining.

"Sales will pick up after X"
"Sales will pick up after Y"
"Sales will pick up after Z"

The fact of the matter is, if you are relying on a game you will be sorely disappointed. Even GTA4 didn't do much for the Ps3. Even MGS4 didn't do much for the Ps3. GTA sells as much as Nintendo's best franchises. MGS sells a little less but is still a massive seller.

If you are relying on a price drop you will be disappointed. The Wii U isn't unaffordable. A price drop might help like the first one helped the Ps3. However, in the Ps3's case it still had a high price point and could look forward to price reduction again. Nintendo is already losing money on the Wii U. One thing Nintendo isn't as good as Sony with is reducing costs of their system. Why? because they already use cheap components that have little room for getting cheaper. As time drags on they will get cheaper but definitely not at the same pace as new technology. So they drop the price of the Wii U... the price reduction will be more than the cost reduction. Then when will they be able to drop it again?

Okay, let's say that a price reduction and games do something unprecedented. MGS4 increased sales by 141%. GTA increased it by 80%. 299 price point increased it by 80% the 499 pice point increased it by 52%. We also know that no single thing really sustained sales. But lets pretend that everything works out for the Wii U. It gets a measly 50 dollar drop and somehow attracts people. Let's say Mario releases and it attracts people. Okay, let's say it gets a bigger increase than anything the Ps3 received AND it sustains sales.... well, the best we are looking at is still something under 100k a week. 32k (initial sales) x 3 (200%) = 96k. This is also using current sales. Sales may even drop lower than this.

I can see Wii U selling less than 6 million this calendar year. It all really depends when Nintendo cuts the price. But if they wait till sometime like E3 it wont be good for them.


Is this the definition of someone trying to act like they know what they are talking about? What exactly are those games Ninty fans are saying wait for? All I see is them saying wait for some games. GTA is big but there is a difference between that and Mario. One is exclusive, so obviously the boost is much bigger, and please dont compare MGS to Nintys top tier, they are not in the same league.

If you don't see nintendo fans saying wait for games then you are blind

i see them saying it and it's the truth. I don't see how a price drop will help its sales when theres not a lot to play on it. I'd rather have the current price and way more games than a price drop and the same drought like atmosphere if I had to choose.