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Mr Khan said:
Soleron said:
Mr Khan said:
NightDragon83 said:
Soleron said:
The obvious solution is to not make drugs worth fighting over by legalising them.

You do realize that some of the drugs people have been killed over are prescription drugs, right?  Legalizing drugs isn't going to stop people from dying over them, especially when they need their fix and don't have the money to purchase or acquire them legally i.e. a doctor's prescription.

The solution then would just be to de-regulate the distribution of all drugs, but big pharma would *hate* it.

Actually something i could get behind, namely that you can't patent a distinct chemical compound.

Clinical trials need to stay in some form. If the US had public healthcare it would be cost effective to entirely self-fund trials. Perhaps in conjunction with some EU systems.

Well, not to get rid of the FDA or its strict requirements, but to eliminate the entire "perscription" system and make everything over-the-counter

Really?  So you think that highly addictive painkillers and anti-depressant drugs (which more people in the US abuse and overdose on than any "illegal" drug every year) should be available over the counter?  That's taking things a bit far, isn't it?  In a country where salt and sugary foods and drinks are being banned because they make people who consume way too much of them fat, we're going to make prescription drugs easier for just about everyone to access?



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

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Kasz216 said:
NintendoPie said:
Otakumegane said:

All the racial violence in U.S summarized in 1 comic.

Is this too graphic?

I think it might be a little too graphic.

Not sure I get it, either.


Basically the comic is showing how the crowd cares more about what the police officer is doing to the criminal by hurting his wrists, then the massive crimes said person has committed.

I'm assuming the point trying to be made is that the reason there is so much crime is because local communties tend to overlook the crimes of "Their own" and instead focus on others wrongdoings while ignoring what they've done.

 

Which to be fair is very common in the area I work at.  Though where I work at in Las Vegas there is no racial divide.    Black, Hispanic, White, everybody gets along perfectly fine, with "Battle lines" being drawn due to specific slights towards each other, and then people joining in, or just believing the side of the person they like more, assuming the other is completely to blame.  Hence there is no accountability or change in behavior.  When someone gets out of jail, it's the police's fault for arresting them, not that they stole someone or beat someone so bad they were put in a hospital, or the other guys fault for "starting" it by saying something stupid.

 

Also strangely enough it's rarely long lived.  I've seen a guy pull a knife on another guy's throat having to be convinced by someone else not to use it, and then seen those two people hang out and act like friends a week later.

It was always like that with guys i knew in high school. A few close friendships were started by guys kicking the shit out of each other...



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outlawauron said:
Black on black crime is still the biggest problem in the South. That statistics for it are incredible. It accounts for over 90% of violent crime in my state.

It is the main source of crime in many parts of the South (MS, AL, LA). The best solution for most people is to find out where the majority of it happens and try to avoid those areas as much as possible during the most dangerous times. And, when someone has to go there, carry a firearm and be very cautious.

In the end, safety is up to each individual. I take many steps to reduce more exposure to crime. My car has been hit twice in hit and runs. I never fixed the dents. I never keep anything of value visible in my car. I keep the doors locked, even when in the car. I make sure not to drive a luxury car. I have a $80 flashlight that I keep on me, just in case I need a weapon.

I keep a gun near where I sleep. I keep a knife in my car in case I need to stab someone that tries to steal my car. I keep my wallet in my front right pocket (I'm right handed).



 

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NightDragon83 said:
Mr Khan said:

Well, not to get rid of the FDA or its strict requirements, but to eliminate the entire "perscription" system and make everything over-the-counter

Really?  So you think that highly addictive painkillers and anti-depressant drugs (which more people in the US abuse and overdose on than any "illegal" drug every year) should be available over the counter?  That's taking things a bit far, isn't it?  In a country where salt and sugary foods and drinks are being banned because they make people who consume way too much of them fat, we're going to make prescription drugs easier for just about everyone to access?

Not really. I tend to think that the harder drugs should stay illegal, actually (basically everything except Weed and maybe MDMA), i'm just trying to feel out a possibly-viable solution to the problem.



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FreeTalkLive said:
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The inner city schools are the best funded in much of the country. Often times the rural schools are the least funded. I do agree that inner city schools are way over funded. Around $25,000 per year per student in DC. Students go to school for K through 12 which is 13 years, but many are held back a year so $25,000 per student times 14 is just too much money. In many rural areas the funding is only 1/3 that amount.

Alright. I guess I don't know many specifics about the US. If funding is that high, what is it about the schools that is preventing kids from going to college?



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NightDragon83 said:

Really?  So you think that highly addictive painkillers and anti-depressant drugs (which more people in the US abuse and overdose on than any "illegal" drug every year) should be available over the counter?  That's taking things a bit far, isn't it?  In a country where salt and sugary foods and drinks are being banned because they make people who consume way too much of them fat, we're going to make prescription drugs easier for just about everyone to access?

That's the traditional US system. It worked for 100s of years in the US. It was working OK when the system changed. Changing the system caused more harm than good. We should abandon the communist like medical system we have now and go back to the traditional US system. What do you have against the US tradition that worked for 100s of years? You know, where children were allowed to be sent to town at age 12 in the Summer to buy alcohol or powerful pain meds for a family that was busy on the farm.



 

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Soleron said:
FreeTalkLive said:
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The inner city schools are the best funded in much of the country. Often times the rural schools are the least funded. I do agree that inner city schools are way over funded. Around $25,000 per year per student in DC. Students go to school for K through 12 which is 13 years, but many are held back a year so $25,000 per student times 14 is just too much money. In many rural areas the funding is only 1/3 that amount.

Alright. I guess I don't know many specifics about the US. If funding is that high, what is it about the schools that is preventing kids from going to college?


lack of parenting at home. And although the schools are well funded, like most government agencies the money is not well spent. Too much goes to administrtors, and adminstraition vs schools and teachers.  I think my local super intendant makes 200k+ a year, and gets benifits and has a staff that makes 100k+ a year(San Bernardino County) and the schools are not high performing.



The U.S. is so focused on race & ethnicity. I feel when we focus too much on this, and it really just creates divisions between our nation.



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FreeTalkLive said:
NightDragon83 said:
 

Really?  So you think that highly addictive painkillers and anti-depressant drugs (which more people in the US abuse and overdose on than any "illegal" drug every year) should be available over the counter?  That's taking things a bit far, isn't it?  In a country where salt and sugary foods and drinks are being banned because they make people who consume way too much of them fat, we're going to make prescription drugs easier for just about everyone to access?

That's the traditional US system. It worked for 100s of years in the US. It was working OK when the system changed. Changing the system caused more harm than good. We should abandon the communist like medical system we have now and go back to the traditional US system. What do you have against the US tradition that worked for 100s of years? You know, where children were allowed to be sent to town at age 12 in the Summer to buy alcohol or powerful pain meds for a family that was busy on the farm.

I didn't know that drug manufacturing companies being able to profit off of their own research, manufacturing ans sale of their products, as well as insurance companies being able to profit off of the risks they take in covering people who potentially need hundreds of thousands for their medical bills was considered communist.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

FreeTalkLive said:
NightDragon83 said:
 

Really?  So you think that highly addictive painkillers and anti-depressant drugs (which more people in the US abuse and overdose on than any "illegal" drug every year) should be available over the counter?  That's taking things a bit far, isn't it?  In a country where salt and sugary foods and drinks are being banned because they make people who consume way too much of them fat, we're going to make prescription drugs easier for just about everyone to access?

That's the traditional US system. It worked for 100s of years in the US. It was working OK when the system changed. Changing the system caused more harm than good. We should abandon the communist like medical system we have now and go back to the traditional US system. What do you have against the US tradition that worked for 100s of years? You know, where children were allowed to be sent to town at age 12 in the Summer to buy alcohol or powerful pain meds for a family that was busy on the farm.

Why not bring back the Tsar? Russia worked fine for centuries before the workers and peasants got all uppity...



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