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Forums - Politics Discussion - Global Warming: How dire is the situation, or how much is it overhyped?

HesAPooka on 17 January 2013
xstonexcold316x said:
HesAPooka said:
I think we'll see massive changes within our lifetime. It will definitely change the way we live our lives. I'm not a doomsday believer but global warming is certainly real and it's had some profound affects our world in the last 10 years. I can only imagine what it will be like in 50. I live in Vancouver Canada so it's not that bad, but this summer we had what had to be the biggest electrical storm we've ever had that I can remember which is very very unusual for us. I'd had to live in the mid west in the states or east coast. They seem to deal with 2, 3, 4 storms every year.


See I think this gets a lot of people. They don't want to be labled as doomsayers, but reality is is that it is getting worse and evidence points to it accelerating.. so its very feasible that we could be facing some huge issues in the next even 10-20 years, say for example, the American Bread Basket dries out, or New York gets put out for weeks due to another hurricane. I live in PA in the NE US, and I mean this has been the warmest winter i can recall, i know I'm 19, but it just doesn't feel right. In my area though we're far enough from the coast to not worry about flodding, we still get a good bit of rain so no worries of draughts right now. I guess I'm pretty fortunate as well.


I agree, this October it was still warm enough to wear shorts in Vancouver. Only in the last month has it actually cooled off a bit. Although our summer wasn't all that hot, but what was weird about it was that it wouldn't cool off very much during the night, and for Vancouver to have an lightening storm that lasted for aboutan hour is VERY odd. The longest I can remember there being a lightening storm before this was for about 5-10 minutes tops. Different places are being affected in different ways. I don't think where I live will be as bad as the Mid west of america or north east. They seem to get it bad, but eventually who knows.

What makes me mad is that there are so many alternative eco friendly energies out there that we could be using or funding, but the government won't do so because of all the profits in oil.



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Squilliam on 17 January 2013

I would say underhyped. Scientists only tend to tell you things they are sure about not things which given various uncertainties means that what they say is on the low end of the scale.



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Spazzy_D on 17 January 2013
xstonexcold316x said:
Spazzy_D said:
Geologically speaking, the earth has been in a warming period since the last Ice Age ended about 40,000 years ago. We are most likely speeding up the process a bit, though.


I agree that it is not entirely man made seeing as earth does go through cylces, but if the past 10 years are to go on, we have accelerated a lot and for some reason we can't find the brake.. I mean talking of warming/cooling cylces, that's what every 10,000 years?


It's been a long time since I've taken any Geology classes, but I believe interglaciation periods can last millions of years.  The dinosaurs enjoyed quite a long one during the Mesozoic.



xstonexcold316x on 17 January 2013
Lafiel said:
all the various indicators we have point to global warming happening and to affecting us (as a species) a lot in the future, but there still is a chance for this warming leading to the next ice age

the warming is expected to negatively influence the termohaline circulation, which we see as the main driving force of the gulf stream - if the gulf stream gets weaker and doesn't reach up as far to the north anymore the whole norther hemnisphere will see a drastic cooling leading to an ice age

as a geologist I'm pretty curious if global warming results in a hot house climate or if it ends this interglacial we are living in

Very Interesting.. So which outcome would think would be more probable? And is it already slowing? because the Artic is shrinking i believe? or How would this process work?



SxyxS on 17 January 2013

100% hype.

the CO2 hoax is a huge money making machine using a 100% incompetent amateur(al gore)combined with a noble peace prize to sell a lie.And it works.

Only 0.038% (1/2500)of our air is CO2.And less than 1/4 of these 0.038% are man made=0.001=1/10000.
You don't need to be an expert to realize that ,if a 1/10000 is added to a system,that it has absolutely no effect.
Imagine 1/10000 CO2 inside a system would increase the temperature 3-5 degrees.
What will happen if you add 100% CO2 to system?-it will detonate like an atom bomb making nitro look like a lame duck because the energy will be 3-5degrees x 10000.
But what is happenning if you fill a system with 100%?Almost nothing.
You can store a co2 cartridge whenever and whereever-and nothing will happen.

If 1/10000 CO2would increase the temperature 3-5 degrees we wouldn't spent so much money for heating our room we would add just some co2 in our living rooms.
simple test.
buy 2 transparent balloons and 2 thermometers.
Put a thermometer inside every balloon.
fill the 1st balloon with air
and the 2nd balloon with 100% pure,devlish,megaheating co2.

let the sun shine on the balloons for 2 hours and than take a look at the thermometer;you will see that both balloons have almost the same temperature.If 100% co2 is hardly able to increase the temperature up to 3-5degrees,what may happen if you add 0.001%? nothing.

co2 is a trojan horse to gain more money.as The bankers can't go around and tell the people"pay for breathing" they need to create an artificial reason that effects people emotionally.
Than you need to hype weather extremes and manipulate data(Thanks to the information act of freedomthe IPCC (the rockefeller-mafia organisation behind the co2 hoax) was forced to release the infomations about the climate change.What happened?the data dissappeared.the IPCC can't find the informations.

do some research about Al gores co2 company and how much money he will earn with the hoax



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Cobretti2 on 17 January 2013
Chris Hu said:
At this point there isn't really much we can do about it. The only way to reverse these trends instantaneously is if one of the supervolcano's would have a massive eruption but that would cause another set of massive problems.

Actually Mt Fuji is predicted to bloe somewhere before 2015. 

The last earthquake in the area has incread the pressure to a point well beyong last time it blew 300 years ago. So that will be a concerning event.

 

AS FOR OP:

Global Warming is a buzz word that was around in the early 200s. It is now called climate change as weather has been more unstable and not just hot in some areas. 

Also to add I think some of the states in Australia (perhaps Tasmania only) had its highest temp on record ever. Some of the other states highest temp was around the 1930s-1970s



 

 

maximrace on 17 January 2013

It's going to be a big problem. Too bad most americans don't believe it ( thanks to the republicans). I wonder how the world would be today if Al Gore got elected



Chris Hu on 17 January 2013
Cobretti2 said:
Chris Hu said:
At this point there isn't really much we can do about it. The only way to reverse these trends instantaneously is if one of the supervolcano's would have a massive eruption but that would cause another set of massive problems.

Actually Mt Fuji is predicted to bloe somewhere before 2015. 

The last earthquake in the area has incread the pressure to a point well beyong last time it blew 300 years ago. So that will be a concerning event.

 

AS FOR OP:

Global Warming is a buzz word that was around in the early 200s. It is now called climate change as weather has been more unstable and not just hot in some areas. 

Also to add I think some of the states in Australia (perhaps Tasmania only) had its highest temp on record ever. Some of the other states highest temp was around the 1930s-1970s

Is Mt Fuji considered a super volcano?  I know the yellowstone park region contains several that are due to erupt in the near future.



famousringo on 17 January 2013
Chris Hu said:
At this point there isn't really much we can do about it. The only way to reverse these trends instantaneously is if one of the supervolcano's would have a massive eruption but that would cause another set of massive problems.


I don't think it's too late to do anything about it. It might be too late to prevent any negative effects of climate change, but it's not too late to prevent the worst possible effects.

Taking serious action now might mean the difference between warming that merely raises the oceans a meter or two and warming that shuts down the deep sea conveyor, triggering a massive release of poisonous hydrogen sulfide gas that causes mass extinctions around the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permian-Triassic_extinction_event#Hydrogen_sulfide_emissions

Put another way, while we may not have a choice but to live with global warming, I think we have a choice between global warming which costs civilization a lot, global warming which destroys civilization as we know it, and global warming which destroys the human race.



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cannonballZ on 17 January 2013

I still dont know where I stand on this issue to be honest. I've done quite a bit of research. And found a lot of contradicting articles-
http://mobile.wnd.com/2012/08/busted-leaked-emails-snag-global-warming-alarmists/

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/04/23/11144098-gaia-scientist-james-lovelock-i-was-alarmist-about-climate-change?lite

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/05/31/sorry-global-warming-alarmists-the-earth-is-cooling/

I'm not sure scientists know what they're talking about. Even james lovelock the so-called godfather of global warming admits he's not sure anymore.