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Forums - Politics - Global Warming: How dire is the situation, or how much is it overhyped?

cannonballZ said:
maximrace said:
It's going to be a big problem. Too bad most americans don't believe it ( thanks to the republicans). I wonder how the world would be today if Al Gore got elected


No your wrong. A lot of americans believe it. And the ones that don't, or just dont know what to think such as myself, have done research and found a lot of contradicting articles. It hasn't been proven for a reason. To my knowledge it's still a theory. A theory that not all scientists agree upon.

How could I believe them if they don't believe themselves?

How do we know it's not just nature running its course? 

 

Remember the ozone layer? Many books and essays tore the whole theory to pieces and considered it the biggest of hoaxes.

Now governments hate to hear people bring it up because it makes them look stupid.

Even governments don't mention it anymore. Strange.

You will think they would be proud of such an acheivement and bring it up at every global warming meeting.

A lot of people made good money from the ozone "problem" and now they are many employed in the so-called green industries.



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Heres another very recent article-

http://tamino.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/fake-skeptic-draws-fake-picture-of-global-temperature/



super_etecoon said:
I think it's serious enough to stop treating it like a political issue and more like the scientific issue it is.

This^^^^^

yes and as price goes down, People can save money by buying clean energy.  So eventually once the price drops and solar panel/wind power get more efficient,we will see people changing over quicker and quicker as time goes by.



SxyxS said:

If 1/10000 CO2would increase the temperature 3-5 degrees we wouldn't spent so much money for heating our room we would add just some co2 in our living rooms.

oh boy.. go to school and learn basic physics and then some more..



Well we are in a period of warming since period of cooling stopped 40+ years ago. My outlook is that we cannot do anything about it atm. Only way to stop is to lower the population of the world, and that is not happening without a nuclear war or something. And that would not help either.

Our Fossil fuel reserves are depleting anyways, within 200 years coal and every other important fossil fuel will be used up at our current rate. A rate which I think will only get higher with the medium sized economies becoming large. After that we will not have to worry about polluting the Earth because the Earth will adjust itself after that. 200 years is a really short amount of time for Earth and is fairly short for even people.



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justinian said:
cannonballZ said:
maximrace said:
It's going to be a big problem. Too bad most americans don't believe it ( thanks to the republicans). I wonder how the world would be today if Al Gore got elected


No your wrong. A lot of americans believe it. And the ones that don't, or just dont know what to think such as myself, have done research and found a lot of contradicting articles. It hasn't been proven for a reason. To my knowledge it's still a theory. A theory that not all scientists agree upon.

How could I believe them if they don't believe themselves?

How do we know it's not just nature running its course? 

 

Remember the ozone layer? Many books and essays tore the whole theory to pieces and considered it the biggest of hoaxes.

Now governments hate to hear people bring it up because it makes them look stupid.

Even governments don't mention it anymore. Strange.

You will think they would be proud of such an acheivement and bring it up at every global warming meeting.

A lot of people made good money from the ozone "problem" and now they are many employed in the so-called green industries.


Wow, so now the succussfully solved ozone crisis is evidence against climate change? They really can spin anything...

People do talk about the ozone crisis, frequently, and in the context of greenhouse gas emmissions. There are quite a few similarities between the two problems. But CFCs were a problem which was trivial to solve by switching to alternative gasses for refridgeration and aerosol canisters.

There is no easy alternative to fossil fuels, only painful ones. So we downplay, and delay, and deny, and accuse other people of not doing enough, because we would give up almost anything else before we gave up cheap energy. Cheap energy makes everything awesome possible.



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