So you can't look at those, or any, pictures of the Pentagon and show me how a Boeing 757 caused that damange? 

Anyone know where in that thread proof is shown a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon?

The mechanics of how the towers fell & what hit the Pentagon is meaningless. The important things to pay attention to is how the planes got to the towers in the first place & why the US government wanted a "new Pearl Harbor".

While what you say is true... you have to first prove that there is even a reason to think they knew it was going to happen.

There isn't, It's a weak ass thread.  You shouldn't stick to that one single point though, there are lot's of other points the debunkers can't touch, the no plane theory is the one the debunkers eat up, sighting witnesses.  Until we see that gas station footage we won't know for sure.

But its the perfect one to show as there is no way anyone can show a large plane with wings and engines in those wings hit that building.

There is no way within the bounds of science and all its associated laws of physics is it possible.

Once you accept that there is an obvious lie regarding that event, then its reasonable to conclude that the government at the very least planned the Pentagon hit. If they planned the Pentagon hit, then its reasonable to conclude they knew about the overall or general impending attacks. If they knew about the impending attacks then its reasonable they felt it was ok to let THOUSANDS of people die. The only reasonable conclusion to that is to justify what came later on. New laws and two wars. Loss of many freedoms and tens of thousands of human life.

Hey Superchunk, I agree, I agree, but I find it more interesting that that specific wall of the Pentagon was reenforced right before 9/11 & mostly empty of people as a result of renovations. I'm just suggesting you not put all your eggs in one potentially weak basket.

EDIT: The burdon of proof is on the US government though, and they have a tape from a gas station down the highway a half mile away that clearly shows what happened.  They have failed to prove what hit the Pentagon & even played games with releasing any proof.  After the attack they released I think one single frame from the on site camera that showed a fireball.  After people demanded more proof (Through the freedom of information act?) they released a very slow frame rate video that showed right before, one frame that showed a trail of smoke going all the way through the frame, and then the same fireball.  The then newly released tape was flaunted as solid proof even though it showed nothing (except the trail from a chemical rocket engine?) and news anchors said things like "Maybe now THOSE people will shut up." .

EDIT: Another trump card debunkers play is the "It would take thousands of people involved to pull off 9/11, why haven't any talked?"  The truth is it would only take a room of a dozen top military & government figures to pull their strings and issue their orders to allow the attacks to happen.  It's not like they told the fighter pilots anything but "War game this morning, go fly 500 miles out into the Atlantic." & the commander who gave that order was himself simply told what to do, it was his superiors superior who was one of the dozen in that room who made it happen.  As for the potential of placing explosives in the WTC, that could have been done by a small special forces team in the weeks leading up to 9/11.

guys this thing is like proving God exits to the non believer you show them evidence yet they do not believe. their government said it was not them so it has to be true!

fact is that the government can do whatever it want's and get away with it while thousands of people around the world suffer!

I know, it's frustrating.  I haven't talked about any of this online in years.  I just wanted to get in early on this thread to give some information to people who are new to the idea & don't have their minds already made up.  The people with their minds made up & 100% certain their government is completely innocent will need to have their own personal awakenings, nothing any of us can say will sway them.  It's like trying to tell someone the earth is round, they look at the flat field in front of them & laugh at you.

I can't imagine this coming out of someone's mouth.