I would rather keep an open mind and be laughed at rather than be a puppet controlled by the government through media 

Do you know when I realized the war is coming along with some big changes? On September 9, 2001, when this guy was killed:

Ahmad Shah Massoud, the head of Northern Alliance, which was one of the main forces that Soviets made a deal with to ensure stability of the region upon leaving Afghanistan. Why is sworn enemy of those who invade Afghanistan is eventually a great friend is unknown to me, but this pattern repeats for 200 year already, I even made a thread about that: Afghan Cycle: How it works :D Seeing how ISAF looking into making a deal with Taliban, the same will happen upon ending the current war in Afghanistan.

It's not a secret that Massoud and Taliban had issues, it's not a secret that Massoud and CIA had a particullaty good relationships since 1999. But who killed him is surely a conspiracy with little to no facts that compared to 9/11 events worth a lot more to look into. The only thing could be said for sure here is the stability of the region was somewhat broken with this murder. And then came 9/11 attacks, a lot of rhetorics, conspiracy as if excuse for a war is relevant (could be anything), and eventually a war.

It's 5th war in Afghanistan (at least among the relevant ones), and they always meant smth on the big scale. I don't care about the conspiracy surrounding 9/11, but looking at the historical pattern here calling the war a coincidence (=due to attacks) is a stretch.

//But I'd like to see some proofs it was an inside job, not that it changes anything, just to see epic meltdowns :D Oh, wishful thinking.

Sorry, but I'm not going to watch your tin hat propaganda for the same reason I refuse to humor Moon landing and Holocaust deniers. I won't even discuss your conspiracy theories beyond the topic of conspiracy theories in general. Like I said before, I have given up on conspiracy theorists. You claim to be more open minded, but really you just want everyone to agree with you. You hold on to debunked false facts and disregard common sense. Nothing frustrates a conspiracy theorist more than someone who won't listen to them. Years ago I decided that the only thing conspiracy nuts will get from me is a general statement and silence. I've given you my general statement and now I'll leave you in silence.

Your poll isn't as good as my poll.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=130559&page=1

Not sure what you wanted to achieve with this thread considering your mind is made up and you seem to not want to have a proper discussion but to parrot the official truth as evidenced by not only your statement but the poll as well. Plenty of users here have already pointed out  the many fallacies in your argument as well as the official line so I won't bother other than to to leave you with one very appropriate video which perfectly illustrates the human condition when faced with something which is too hard or scary to accept.

Ignorance is most definitely bliss.

The planes never left North America, so they didn't exactly penetrate NORAD.  It's primary purpose is to detect attacks from outside the US.  Prior to 9/11 nearly all hijackings were done to use the passengers as leverage, not to use the plane as a weapon.  Even if they had been able to find the planes and scramble fighter jets in time, the pilots wouldn't have had a standing order to shoot them down.

from a cave to a plane hmmmmmmmm?????????? 

-Thermite residue and unburned particals were found in the rubble of the WTC along with pools of moltan steel deep in the rubble that recorded temperatures higher then that at which jet fuel can burn.  This was recorded by a thermal camera in a fly over days or weeks after the attack.  The sound of "explosions" could be credited to almost anything that was happening in the building or objects falling outside of the building.  The loud bangs and thermite don't need to be lumped together like that.

-The rate of gravity fall is BS, it originated in the first Loose Change movie, you can clearly see that they clock the debris falling outside the main structure & not the structure itself.  I'll give you that one as BS.

-The missile theory at the Pentagon is one that I also take issue with, although the perfectly round punctures into the innear rings of the Pentagon is the ear mark of a missile.  I & many others don't suggest it was a missile, but until the Government releases the video from the gas station we really won't know.

-I guess you haven't been reading my posts, I've been saying that the most likely scenerio is that they simply allowed it to happen by deverting NORAD to massive training exercise on the morning of 9/11 that moved fighter jets out of range & confused the pilots with fake reports from the exercise that they couldn't decipher fast enough from real world happenings.

-It would not require thousands of people to carry off.  It would take a dozen of the top military & government leaders in a room pulling strings & issuing orders to make the pieces fall into place.

-"Why didn't the Bush administration just plant some WMD's in Iraq if they were so competent?" Why did they say they had concrete proof in the first place?  It's easier to tell a lie then produce evidence.  If they attempted to plant WMD's in Iraq they would face a greater chance of being expossed then if they just find nothing.  At that point they already had what they wanted.

"Until Sept. 11, NORAD was expected to defend the United States and Canada from aircraft based elsewhere. After the attacks, that responsibility broadened to include flights that originated in the two countries.

But there were exceptions in the early drills, including one operation, planned in July 2001 and conducted later, that involved planes from airports in Utah and Washington state that were "hijacked." Those planes were escorted by U.S. and Canadian aircraft to airfields in British Columbia and Alaska."

Seems to support what I said.  NORAD at the time was still focused on external threats.  For the domestic hijacking drills, the fighters were used as escorts.

Except they intercept dozens of domestic flights every year within minutes of a suspected hijacking.  So you think they intercept domestic flights just to say hi?  If the planes were intercepted & chased at low altitude & high speed directly at the New York skyline they wouldn't be shot down?  Right?

At the very least after the first hit the other two would have been taken out (as perhaps the forth was).