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Was it?

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They let it happen.



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From the divided answers here. It is safe to say that the American reputation has been seriously hurt by the events in this decade. Their handling of the Iraq war was downright worst. Not saying Saddam and his sons were innocent even if they didn't have the Nuclear weapons. They commit horrible atrocities among their own people and people in the middle east are rising against similar corrupt regimes.

Giant empires usually fall from within and if the citizens don't believe and trust their own government than that is usually the signs of decay. Truly tragic events regardless of who was behind it. This is the new never ending war. One kills the other and the other comes back to kill you. Goes on forever. Human history is the proof.



JoeTheBro said:

With the stupid, stupid, and even more stupid thread/conspiracy theory about the Sandy Hook tragedy, I feel obliged to make this thread about 911. 11 years later people still strongly believe it wasn't a terrorist attack. Meanwhile I've had 11 years to research it and disprove this crazy theory. So basically there are three outcomes of this thread. The first is you will present evidence that can't be disproved in which case I'll admit 911 was probably faked. The second outcome is me discrediting ALL of your evidence and you admitting it wasn't faked. The third and most likely outcome is people will use shady tactics and not actually care about logic sending this thread in a downward spiral of doom. So go ahead, try and convince me 911 is more than meets the eye. I don't want you just posting videos, I want your own thoughts and words.

 

Fellow members that agree it wasn't an inside job can feel free to help prove my point.

I accept your challenge.

 

1.  No fire or bomb has ever caused a building or sky scraper to fall at the rate of gravity.

2.  To quote Obi Wan Kenobi, " these blast Points are too accurate for sand ppl".  The level of skill is too difficult for Arabs that failed flight school.  Especially the low flying high speed turn into the pentagon.

3.  World trade building 7 wasn't hit by a plane yet still managed to fall at the rate of gravity. (theory of duh!)

4.  The plane that crashed in the field left no evidence of an aircraft or chemical residue (fuel) in the soil.  Planes don't disintegrate on impact.

5.  Bush wasn't rushed to safety even though his itenerary was public and we were being surprise attacked.  He knew he was safe.

6.  Blooms of smoke can be seen coming from the sides of the twin towers.. Exactly like a planed demolition.

7. Post 9/11 the government got anything it wanted. What a lucky streak if you want to shred the bill of rights, magnify your budget exponentially,  end FCC rules that protect free press, end the regulations on banks that got us out of the great depression (glass steagal act). Best of all divide the nation for further decent. Make us afraid and unite in hatred of a formless enemy.  ( I'm just saying it benefits the accused )

 

I have more but I have a central committee to go to.  I'm pretty sure we're gonna try to get the dark lord impeached for infringing on our right to keep and bear arms without congress. Pres can't write his own laws.. And he needs to be given the definition of "shall not be infringed"

 

 

I look forward to debating this with you.

 

In liberty,

Snyps



So the straw man is now built.

Obviously no buildings that large have ever been taken down in controlled demolitions so what would you compare it to looking like? WTC tower 7 did however look exactly like a controlled demolition.

And just to point out, those three buildings were the only three steel frame buildings to ever be taken down by fire. Yes there was structural damage from the planes but the WTC tower 1 & 2 were designed to withstand the impact of a plane at any floor. Both planes hit high on the buildings but both caused identical collapses with only a small percentage of the buildings weight above the impact sight. As for WTC tower 7, the British reported it collapsed before it actually did. There is even a video of it's announcement as having fallen by a BBC reporter while it is clearly seen standing behind her. These all however are not even important points. You can call serious doubts on the official story by looking at the months and weeks leading up to the attack.



Although I'm on the side of "No", I do see some interesting points raised by some, and like Jesse Ventura said, we should be free to talk about it, and free to dispel those claims that don't have sufficient evidence. I may be a "no", but I'm not 100%...

For instance, there was talk that the building collapsed at the rate of gravity, which would only make sense for the final parts of the building collapse. However, wouldn't the first dozen or so floor require a little more time to sustain the debris from the floor above before it gives as well? Jesee mentioned that he worked with demolitions before, and that doesn't seem quite right.

But it's good to see that people are talking about it. As tragic as it was, speech should never be silenced.



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So far, I have seen zero claims from the truthers that could be classified as correct. For example, none of the buildings fell at free for all speeds. None of them did, yet so many people say it. Why? Because the 9/11 Truthers make a claim and instead of investigating it, people just repeat it as fact.



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chris_wing said:
So the straw man is now built. "No plane at the pentagon", "The fire couldn't have melted the steel", these are two points the debunkers attack against people who question 9/11.

Obviously no buildings that large have ever been taken down in controlled demolitions so what would you compare it to looking like? WTC tower 7 did however look exactly like a controlled demolition.

And just to point out, those three buildings were the only three steel frame buildings to ever be taken down by fire. Yes there was structural damage from the planes but the WTC tower 1 & 2 were designed to withstand the impact of a plane at any floor. Both planes hit high on the buildings but both caused identical collapses with only a small percentage of the buildings weight above the impact sight. As for WTC tower 7, the British reported it collapsed before it actually did. There is even a video of it's announcement as having fallen by a BBC reporter while it is clearly seen standing behind her. These all however are not even important points. You can call serious doubts on the official story by looking at the months and weeks leading up to the attack.


Call me a skeptic, but on 9/11, I was expecting the floors above the plane wreck to sag and topple in the direction that the plane hit the building.

For their size, the collapse of the WTC towers could have caused a LOT more damage to surrounding areas than they did...



fordy said:
chris_wing said:
So the straw man is now built. "No plane at the pentagon", "The fire couldn't have melted the steel", these are two points the debunkers attack against people who question 9/11.

Obviously no buildings that large have ever been taken down in controlled demolitions so what would you compare it to looking like? WTC tower 7 did however look exactly like a controlled demolition.

And just to point out, those three buildings were the only three steel frame buildings to ever be taken down by fire. Yes there was structural damage from the planes but the WTC tower 1 & 2 were designed to withstand the impact of a plane at any floor. Both planes hit high on the buildings but both caused identical collapses with only a small percentage of the buildings weight above the impact sight. As for WTC tower 7, the British reported it collapsed before it actually did. There is even a video of it's announcement as having fallen by a BBC reporter while it is clearly seen standing behind her. These all however are not even important points. You can call serious doubts on the official story by looking at the months and weeks leading up to the attack.


Call me a skeptic, but on 9/11, I was expecting the floors above the plane wreck to sag and topple in the direction that the plane hit the building.

For their size, the collapse of the WTC towers could have caused a LOT more damage to surrounding areas than they did...



true....plus you can see a kind of armony in the way it felt...



It was on the pentagons radar for sure but Washington used it as the catalyst it needed to start its Middle East campaign much like they let the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor so they could retaliate and showcase the atomic bomb