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KungKras said:
mai said:
KungKras said:
Hopefully, the internet will put an end to this kind of media manipulation in the long run.

Internet is as much of manipulated environment as MSM are, it's not a saving grace. Works in a way viral marketing works in the business, people get paid for posting. Though most of the time it's just a plain disinterest of the audience that makes things worse.

The difference is that the internet is a free marketplace of ideas. And in that environemnt, good ideas, and correct facts tend to beat out the bad and wrong ones.

Unfortunately, they are not. Look at Arab Spring, the trigger was the Intenet and very specific kind of audinece.

I personally made an effort and found a job of a "paid troll" (minimum wage only studens would agree to work for, but my interest was different). It was about a year ago, when the shit hit the fan over here. Trolls works in brigades (so called "звездочки", lit. "small stars"), all information goes through brigadier so we never knew the boss and most of the time other members of the brigade as well. We got lists of "key points to make" along with some advices on how exactly perform (like tone, common phrases etc.). We wait before the D day, i.e. when the info-cause rolls in MSM (could be anything, like "looky-looky what expensive wristwatch Patriarch wears" etc., usually it's a series of similary themed info-causes to talk shit about, this one was about ROC). Then register (or receive prepared accounts with some history to cover it a little bit) and post, post, post. Most are lazy though, you could easily find out who is who by googling it, they just repost same bullshit over and over. Depending on clicks and views we got paid, I was "fired" in a week though due to "low performance" :D

So the problem really is not in the "truth being hidden", but people, the target audience.



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my eyes where open a while after 9/11 but I am glad more people are waking up!

will watch later though. thanks for sharing this



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What is this video about? I'm not going to invest minutes into a video about a topic I may not care about.



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Jay520 said:
What is this video about? I'm not going to invest minutes into a video about a topic I may not care about.

Lies and deception in American/Brittish news coverage of modern wars, especially the attrocious and unaccounted death of a majority of innocents and civilians.



happydolphin said:
Jay520 said:
What is this video about? I'm not going to invest minutes into a video about a topic I may not care about.

Lies and deception in American/Brittish news coverage of modern wars, especially the attrocious and unaccounted death of a majority of innocents and civilians.


Thanks, I was going to ask the same question. 



Innocent people always die in war. It's unavoidable.

I'm not saying the West is completely innocent but it's so easy to contribute negative results of war towards the UK and the US. I didn't watch the whole video, but i've seen a lot like it. Early on that scene where the helicopter pilot was ordered to fire on people waking in the street, those people were reporters carrying cameras and equipment and were mistaken for hostiles. It's sad and unfortunate, but it doesn't point to soldiers being "evil" just for kicks.

There were a lot of civilian deaths from the wars in the Middle East but there have been a lot of casualty studies (From different countries including the UN as a whole) that show a large number of those civilian deaths out there have been the result of terrorists using people as human shields and suicide bomb jockies.

I've heard of a lot of scenarios where soldiers and doing a patrol, and are fired upon from a house somewhere on a farm. The soldiers return fire or get artillery/air support and destroy the house. Upon inspection of the house, in addition to the terrorist bodies there is a a few women and children there as well. Is it correct to blame the soldiers for those innocent deaths? Not at all.

I've heard of very similar events over the years. Such as children having to go through an American military base to get to their school. The soldiers who stand guard outside always greet the children and give them high fives as they walk through the gates. Well one day someone put a bomb in a childs backpack in order to detonate it when the kid was passing through the gate. I believe in addition to the child carrying the bomb a few more children had died and only 1 soldier was injured. That was a video I saw not too long ago, and I can't seem to find it now unfortunately.

The Western powers are large and well documented. So it's easy to find negative things about them. What we don't get to see is the terrible things that THE BAD GUYS are doing. Those people don't care about innocent lives, they will do anything in attempts to kill Westerners.

Every war takes innocent lives, whether that be from accidental crossfire to the overwhelming power of explosions used in military operations, to even a few soldiers doing terrible things on purpose. War and it's consumption of life (lol Metal Gear) is terrible and cannot be 100% controlled and accounted for. Each side has their fair share of hurting/killing civilians, the difference is at least from the West most of those were accidents.

People can criticize the war all they want and that's totally fine. But i'm tired of hearing that soldiers are the devils lap dogs sent to murder innocent people. If the West really didn't care at all, they could have used much more extreme measures.



Tagged, ill watch it once food settles.



KungKras said:
mai said:
KungKras said:
Hopefully, the internet will put an end to this kind of media manipulation in the long run.

Internet is as much of manipulated environment as MSM are, it's not a saving grace. Works in a way viral marketing works in the business, people get paid for posting. Though most of the time it's just a plain disinterest of the audience that makes things worse.

The difference is that the internet is a free marketplace of ideas. And in that environemnt, good ideas, and correct facts tend to beat out the bad and wrong ones.

A free marketplace of ideas doesn't magically mean better ideas beat out bad ones. Whoever has the most resources can put their ideas in more places online, get more coverage and following versus contradicting or opposing ideas, smear opponents' ideas, lining up more views for their videos and more readers for their articles by simply advertising their ideas in larger quantities and in more visible sites online. Pretty much the exact same way it is in the 'free market' of ideas on television, radio, magazines or newspapers...



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