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dsgrue3 on 21 December 2012
sensebringer said:
dsgrue3 said:
Too many Wii U defenders. Console is dated. They fooled us with a gimmick once, but never again. Sales will reflect that.

Why is the 3DS outselling the Vita? Nintendo fooled the people once with the DS, Why are they fooling the people again?

My point was that Motion control (while revolutionary) was a gimmick. I can't speak on behalf of others, but after buying my Ps3 I never touched my Wii again. 

Now with Wii U, they have a 2nd screen gimmick. It's a cool concept and all, but a gimmick nonetheless. 

What gimmick are you suggesting the DS had? 



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kitler53 on 21 December 2012

i'm sorry, has history changed upon of release of the wiiU?  is ps3's launch not viewed as an epic failure anymore?



Viper1 on 21 December 2012
kitler53 said:

i'm sorry, has history changed upon of release of the wiiU?  is ps3's launch not viewed as an epic failure anymore?

The difference is the reason one is being called a failure.

Nobody called the PS3 a failure simply because it was outsold by the PS2.   And if they did, they were unfamiliar with historical console launch sales and circumstances.

Saying Wii U sales are bad simply because it is being outsold by the Wii in just Europe is...silly.



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sethnintendo on 21 December 2012
dsgrue3 said:
sensebringer said:
dsgrue3 said:
Too many Wii U defenders. Console is dated. They fooled us with a gimmick once, but never again. Sales will reflect that.

Why is the 3DS outselling the Vita? Nintendo fooled the people once with the DS, Why are they fooling the people again?

My point was that Motion control (while revolutionary) was a gimmick. I can't speak on behalf of others, but after buying my Ps3 I never touched my Wii again. 

Now with Wii U, they have a 2nd screen gimmick. It's a cool concept and all, but a gimmick nonetheless. 

What gimmick are you suggesting the DS had? 

"In marketing language, a gimmick is a unique or quirky special feature that makes something "stand out" from its contemporaries. However, the special feature is typically thought to be of little relevance or use.  Thus, a gimmick is a special feature for the sake of having a special feature."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimmick

Yep, motion control was a gimmick because it had little relevance/use.  Forget all the old people and non gamers that actually could play on a home video game console again without being ass raped by a shitload of buttons.  Wii U gamepad ability to play certain games, stream Netflix, etc on just the gamepad while others use the TV is a gimmick.  Who on earth would ever run into a situation in benefiting from that?  Keep using the word gimmick because you don't have a valid argument.



WindyCityHeat on 21 December 2012

Sales are flatlining, nintendo fans are fearful, and in reality everyone from consumers to developers is anticipating PS4/720.

This was really the only hand nintendo had left to play, adapting their handheld strategy to a home console. It's not going to work, that's obvious. Nintendo has a seemingly awful track record with third parties at this point that the "bridges" have been burned both ways. There is not going to be "widespread" third party support for wiiu, there just wont be. No evidence to even support a half-assed delusional argument against this lol.

There isn't a single killer ap for the wiiu. I couldn't name a single game that rivals a "Halo" or "Uncarted." They don't exist. Wii, for the most part, solidified nintendo consoles as "secondary cosoles." Your primary is always going to be PlayStation/Xbox and if you have enough change laying around you could buy this "nintendo thing" as well.

Nintendo dug their own grave. It's a new generaton approaching, and it looks like nintendo won't be playing much of a role.




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dsgrue3 on 21 December 2012
sethnintendo said:
"In marketing language, a gimmick is a unique or quirky special feature that makes something "stand out" from its contemporaries. However, the special feature is typically thought to be of little relevance or use.  Thus, a gimmick is a special feature for the sake of having a special feature."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimmick

Yep, motion control was a gimmick because it had little relevance/use.  Forget all the old people and non gamers that actually could play on a home video game console again without being ass raped by a shitload of buttons.  Wii U gamepad ability to play certain games, stream Netflix, etc on just the gamepad while others use the TV is a gimmick.  Who on earth would ever run into a situation in benefiting from that?  Keep using the word gimmick because you don't have a valid argument.

I did also use the term revolutionary, but just ignore that aspect of my post in order to better suit your argument. lmfao

Do you have a PC or laptop or tablet or phone? Can you not stream netflix on those devices? It's a gimmick. You're a sucker.

 

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sensebringer on 21 December 2012
dsgrue3 said:
sensebringer said:
dsgrue3 said:
Too many Wii U defenders. Console is dated. They fooled us with a gimmick once, but never again. Sales will reflect that.

Why is the 3DS outselling the Vita? Nintendo fooled the people once with the DS, Why are they fooling the people again?

My point was that Motion control (while revolutionary) was a gimmick. I can't speak on behalf of others, but after buying my Ps3 I never touched my Wii again. 

Now with Wii U, they have a 2nd screen gimmick. It's a cool concept and all, but a gimmick nonetheless. 

What gimmick are you suggesting the DS had? 

The dual screens for the DS and the 3D and dual screen setup for the 3DS, you said it yourself.   Also both the DS and the 3DS were dated hardware at launch. You say that reason that the Wii U is being outsold by the other systems is because the console is dated and the gimmick is not fooling anyone. I say it is normal process in the early days of a new hardware. If it was normal for the PS3 and the Xbox 360 to be outsold by the PS2 and GBA it should be normal for the Wii U to be outsold by the PS360 at this time. 



sethnintendo on 21 December 2012
WindyCityHeat said:

There isn't a single killer ap for the wiiu. I couldn't name a single game that rivals a "Halo" or "Uncarted."

 

1 New Super Mario Bros. DS 2006 Platform Nintendo 10.69 8.81 6.46 2.86 28.83
2 New Super Mario Bros. Wii Wii 2009 Platform Nintendo 13.04 6.36 4.60 2.21 26.21
3 New Super Mario Bros. 2 3DS 2012 Platform Nintendo 1.33 0.96 1.51 0.22 4.02
4 New Super Mario Bros. U WiiU 2012 Platform Nintendo 0.44 0.14 0.17 0.06 0.81
Total 25.50 16.28 12.74 5.35 59.87

 

 

1 Uncharted 2: Among Thieves PS3 2009 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 2.96 1.93 0.21 0.91 6.02
2 Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception PS3 2011 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 2.21 2.09 0.19 0.88 5.37
3 Uncharted: Drake's Fortune PS3 2007 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 2.08 1.57 0.12 0.71 4.49
4 Uncharted: Golden Abyss PSV 2011 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 0.31 0.34 0.12 0.08 0.85
5 Pinball Heroes: Uncharted PS3 2009 Puzzle Sony Computer Entertainment 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
Total 7.56 5.93 0.65 2.59 16.72

 

1 Halo 3 X360 2007 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 7.67 2.70 0.13 1.18 11.69
2 Halo: Reach X360 2010 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 6.63 1.78 0.08 0.84 9.32
3 Halo 2 XB 2004 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 6.82 1.53 0.05 0.08 8.49
4 Halo: Combat Evolved XB 2001 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 4.98 1.30 0.08 0.07 6.43
5 Halo 3: ODST X360 2009 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 4.17 1.28 0.06 0.60 6.11
6 Halo 4 X360 2012 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 4.04 1.29 0.04 0.54 5.91
7 Halo Wars X360 2009 Strategy Microsoft Game Studios 1.26 0.73 0.04 0.22 2.24
8 Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary X360 2011 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 1.23 0.62 0.04 0.20 2.08
9 Halo 2 Multiplayer Map Pack XB 2005 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 0.54 0.13 0.00 0.02 0.69
10 Halo Triple Pack XB 2005 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 0.12 0.03 0.00 0.01 0.16
11 Halo 2 PC 2007 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 0.00 0.04 0.00 0.01 0.05
12 Halo: Combat Evolved PC 2003 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 0.00 0.01 0.00 0.00 0.01
13 Halo Wars: Historic Battles X360 2009 Strategy Microsoft Game Studios 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
14 Halo: Reach - Defiant Map Pack X360 2011 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
15 Halo: Combat Evolved X360 2007 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
16 Halo Wars: Strategic Options X360 2009 Strategy Microsoft Game Studios 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
17 Halo Waypoint X360 2009 Misc Microsoft Game Studios 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
18 Halo: Reach - Noble Map Pack X360 2010 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
Total 37.45 11.45 0.52 3.77 53.18


sethnintendo on 21 December 2012
dsgrue3 said:
sethnintendo said:
"In marketing language, a gimmick is a unique or quirky special feature that makes something "stand out" from its contemporaries. However, the special feature is typically thought to be of little relevance or use.  Thus, a gimmick is a special feature for the sake of having a special feature."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimmick

Yep, motion control was a gimmick because it had little relevance/use.  Forget all the old people and non gamers that actually could play on a home video game console again without being ass raped by a shitload of buttons.  Wii U gamepad ability to play certain games, stream Netflix, etc on just the gamepad while others use the TV is a gimmick.  Who on earth would ever run into a situation in benefiting from that?  Keep using the word gimmick because you don't have a valid argument.

I did also use the term revolutionary, but just ignore that aspect of my post in order to better suit your argument. lmfao

Do you have a PC or laptop or tablet or phone? Can you not stream netflix on those devices? It's a gimmick. You're a sucker.

My desktop PC isn't in my bed.  Nintendo doesn't publish games on the PC,phones, or tablets.  I don't have an android phone anymore nor any tablet. 



WindyCityHeat on 21 December 2012
sethnintendo said:
WindyCityHeat said:

There isn't a single killer ap for the wiiu. I couldn't name a single game that rivals a "Halo" or "Uncarted."

 

1 New Super Mario Bros. DS 2006 Platform Nintendo 10.69 8.81 6.46 2.86 28.83
2 New Super Mario Bros. Wii Wii 2009 Platform Nintendo 13.04 6.36 4.60 2.21 26.21
3 New Super Mario Bros. 2 3DS 2012 Platform Nintendo 1.33 0.96 1.51 0.22 4.02
4 New Super Mario Bros. U WiiU 2012 Platform Nintendo 0.44 0.14 0.17 0.06 0.81
Total25.5016.2812.745.3559.87

 

 

1 Uncharted 2: Among Thieves PS3 2009 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 2.96 1.93 0.21 0.91 6.02
2 Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception PS3 2011 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 2.21 2.09 0.19 0.88 5.37
3 Uncharted: Drake's Fortune PS3 2007 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 2.08 1.57 0.12 0.71 4.49
4 Uncharted: Golden Abyss PSV 2011 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 0.31 0.34 0.12 0.08 0.85
5 Pinball Heroes: Uncharted PS3 2009 Puzzle Sony Computer Entertainment 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
Total7.565.930.652.5916.72

 

1 Halo 3 X360 2007 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 7.67 2.70 0.13 1.18 11.69
2 Halo: Reach X360 2010 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 6.63 1.78 0.08 0.84 9.32
3 Halo 2 XB 2004 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 6.82 1.53 0.05 0.08 8.49
4 Halo: Combat Evolved XB 2001 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 4.98 1.30 0.08 0.07 6.43
5 Halo 3: ODST X360 2009 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 4.17 1.28 0.06 0.60 6.11
6 Halo 4 X360 2012 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 4.04 1.29 0.04 0.54 5.91
7 Halo Wars X360 2009 Strategy Microsoft Game Studios 1.26 0.73 0.04 0.22 2.24
8 Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary X360 2011 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 1.23 0.62 0.04 0.20 2.08
9 Halo 2 Multiplayer Map Pack XB 2005 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 0.54 0.13 0.00 0.02 0.69
10 Halo Triple Pack XB 2005 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 0.12 0.03 0.00 0.01 0.16
11 Halo 2 PC 2007 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 0.00 0.04 0.00 0.01 0.05
12 Halo: Combat Evolved PC 2003 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 0.00 0.01 0.00 0.00 0.01
13 Halo Wars: Historic Battles X360 2009 Strategy Microsoft Game Studios 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
14 Halo: Reach - Defiant Map Pack X360 2011 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
15 Halo: Combat Evolved X360 2007 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
16 Halo Wars: Strategic Options X360 2009 Strategy Microsoft Game Studios 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
17 Halo Waypoint X360 2009 Misc Microsoft Game Studios 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
18 Halo: Reach - Noble Map Pack X360 2010 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
Total37.4511.450.523.7753.18


Super Mario Bros. U, which has sold LESS THAN 1million copies, is your definition of "Killer App."

LOL.

I have to laugh lol....no offense but if you're going to "attempt"to make a point, even if you use statistics, you're going to have to actually MAKE A POINT using those statistics lol. It's so funny because you just posted a bunch of numbers, having nothing to do with wiiu, as if you accomplished something haha.

A game that sells under 1 million copies is a killer app, and that's why everyone should buy a wiiu? Try harder haha. Too Funny..