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fillet on 20 December 2012
dahuman said:
ethomaz said:

dahuman said:

that's a marketing ploy, they are the exact same shit.

Nope but  I have to get a bus now... so tomorrow I explain to you .


dood, you didn't even spell it correctly, let along trying to explain it to me, tech talk with you is one of the most painful things on this forum because you are off the mark about 95% of the time.

Don't despair, we're all looking forward to it just as much as you. :S



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ZaneWane on 20 December 2012
D-Joe said:

Nextbox won't use any chip you already know,it will like Xenos
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1687307&postcount=16562


PS4 not sure,but seems some people forget about 7970m and future 89xxm

 

that is interesting



VGKing on 20 December 2012

Does that even make sense? "Next Xbox in beta"



Viper1 on 20 December 2012

This article has some serious faults in fact checking. Makes it rather hard to accept anything the guy writes if he can't even get 6 year old facts correct (PS3 power draw). And then say something silly like, "It doesn’t seem not seem".



The rEVOLution is not being televised

Netyaroze on 20 December 2012

A10+8000 series mobile GPU in PS4 ?

This would be an interesting combination.



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Soleron on 20 December 2012
superchunk said:
SxyxS said:
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There is no where near as much in the change in power as their is in the change of technologies available. They will be similar to the WiiU in that they are relatively small power upgrades, but also like the WiiU they will add a lot of new technologies (DX11 similar stuff) as well as newer architecture that will allow bigger changes on items that are not as apparent as simple visual fluff.

Theres a lot more to a game than just pretty pictures.

Additionally, once these consoles come out ... where do you think all the new games will go, and thus the buyers of new consoles. One truth always remains.... if your only focus is the best possible graphics, then why the hell do you game on a console?

Almost there. It's not even to do with new technologies. It's completely about the games. If you can convince publishers to develop for you, with money OR tech OR just being Sony/MS right now, that's good enough. Third parties will move to a new console from them even if it's not much faster, because they believe that a new gen will increase their sales.



superchunk on 20 December 2012
Soleron said:

Almost there. It's not even to do with new technologies. It's completely about the games. If you can convince publishers to develop for you, with money OR tech OR just being Sony/MS right now, that's good enough. Third parties will move to a new console from them even if it's not much faster, because they believe that a new gen will increase their sales.

Yeah that's definitely the primary reason people will move. Game content will go there and therefore so will you all.



BenVTrigger on 20 December 2012
superchunk said:
Soleron said:

Almost there. It's not even to do with new technologies. It's completely about the games. If you can convince publishers to develop for you, with money OR tech OR just being Sony/MS right now, that's good enough. Third parties will move to a new console from them even if it's not much faster, because they believe that a new gen will increase their sales.

Yeah that's definitely the primary reason people will move. Game content will go there and therefore so will you all.

Not neccesarily.  Statistically PC gaming is on the rise again and a big part of that is due to how much the current technology has surpassed the current consoles.

If MS and Sony fail to deliver at least a decent jump in power next gen they could bleed marketshare to PC.



superchunk on 20 December 2012
BenVTrigger said:

Not neccesarily.  Statistically PC gaming is on the rise again and a big part of that is due to how much the current technology has surpassed the current consoles.

If MS and Sony fail to deliver at least a decent jump in power next gen they could bleed marketshare to PC.

You sure its not because Steam is fucking awesome at providing sales. I think DS and Wii proves it has very little to do with raw power.



BenVTrigger on 20 December 2012
superchunk said:
BenVTrigger said:

Not neccesarily.  Statistically PC gaming is on the rise again and a big part of that is due to how much the current technology has surpassed the current consoles.

If MS and Sony fail to deliver at least a decent jump in power next gen they could bleed marketshare to PC.

You sure its not because Steam is fucking awesome at providing sales. I think DS and Wii proves it has very little to do with raw power.

And I think your wrong.

All you have to do is look at Steams user base and realize thats not why.  Its a growing online service and fantastic but isnt the sole reason.

 

Wii anr DS are entireky irrelevant to the point.  There isnt near as much overlap between the kinds of gamers who play those consoles and High endn PC.  Xbox and Playstation gamers however do, look at the endless graphics debates in every forum from their camps.

 

Steam is certainlly helping but the big reason PC ie on the rise is the huge gap in multiplat games.  PC has always had an edge there but really in the past 2 years PC has really pulled far ahead.  Games like Battlefield 3, Borderlands 2, and others have huge differences on the PC.  The gap now is bigger than its ever been the generation