theprof00 said: hrmm exvept the scientists are using evidence, so they are drawing logical conclusions based on factual realities. That's not an appeal to authority. And it's not an appeal to nature because it is literally proven that all species have popukations of gay individuals.. thats not a fallacy thats just how it is. it would be as if there was an idea that humans breathed soul air, and to prove it false, we looked at other animals saying humans must breathe normal air because all life needs oxygen to live.appeal to nature would be "we have males and females designed to reproduce. homosex isn't natural"
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Wow, this post is barely legible... I'll try to make out the meaning.
@Appeal to authority:
Yes, the scientists themselves are using evidence, but the posters are certifying their arguments using special authority. Here, you are using special pleading because, though the scientists are using evidence, it doesn't remove from the fact that the poster is employing special authority to base his claim on the scientists rather than on the evidence of the scientists.
Special authority: Poster says "I'm right because it's supported by the scientific community."
Reasonable Poster says "I'm right because here is the evidence brought forth by the scientific community and it makes sense to me."
As such, you just used special pleading (by shifting the goalposts).
@Appeal to nature:
As for homosexuality, to say that all species have populations of gays to support homosexuality is using "appeal to nature". It is natural, therefore it is correct. I personally agree with neither of your claim and the fallacy rule of "Appeal to nature".
As for your second idea that highlights a typical religious claim of "we have males and females designed to reproduce. homosex isn't natural", it is also an appeal to nature. Both are "fallacies" given OP, but it all depends on what your rules are for morality. If something being natural means it's moral, then you're golden. If not, well, it's a fallacy.
Here, you employed the double-standard fallacy (I'm adding it), by saying one case of appeal to nature is correct and the other is incorrect.
Regarding the weakness of the Appeal to nature rule, the fallacy commandments aren't free of their own scrutiny either.