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Which has a better game library?

Playstation 2 88 56.77%
 
Nintendo DS 52 33.55%
 
Both are equal 7 4.52%
 
See results 8 5.16%
 
Total:155
pezus said:
sales2099 said:
I smell a damage control thread. PS fans minds are easier to read then a childrens book.

"Since its gonna happen sooner or later that DS overtakes PS2, lets then claim a minor victory in that PS2 had better games. Itll totally cancel eachother out"

Cmon, tell me thats not what they are thinking. You cant

If that's all you have to say, please don't comment again. Dengle asked me to do a thread like this recently and he got one

Yup, I pretty much asked him to do this. I want to see what makes the PS2 library the best.



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KungKras said:
platformmaster918 said:
KungKras said:

I'm sorry but Pokemon + 2D Mario + Mario Kart + Chrono Trigger + Dragon Quest and Squeenix RPG galore in combo is not a fair opponent to any system except the PC.

DS by a lightyear.

Chrono Trigger is on PS2 due to BC.  Squeenix RPG galore as well with new ones plus the PSone ones.

Yes, but the DS has all that as well plus 2D Mario, Mario Kart, and freakin Pokemon!

ok and PS2 has gran Turismo, Burnout, Jak, Ratchet, Sly, Team ICO games, God of War, Tony Hawk (when it was cool), Socom (again when it was awesome), DMC, and like a gazillion others.




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Software sales:

1 PlayStation 2 (PS2) 658.26 553.77 219.60 207.32 1,638.95
4 Nintendo DS (DS) 354.82 174.05 176.84 69.24 774.95

PS2 is probably the winner in this debate. However, the DS had enough mass appeal with certain titles to overcome this setback (hardware-wise). DS easily has sold more software than any other handheld console, for sure.

For a different perspective...

DS games that have sold over 5 million copies

1. New Super Mario Bros. 2006 Platform Nintendo 10.69 8.81 6.46 2.86 28.83
2. Nintendogs 2005 Simulation Nintendo 9.02 10.80 1.93 2.73 24.48
3. Mario Kart DS 2005 Racing Nintendo 9.21 7.09 4.10 1.89 22.28
4. Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day 2005 Misc Nintendo 4.72 9.09 4.16 2.03 20.00
5. Pokémon Diamond / Pearl Version 2006 Role-Playing Nintendo 6.32 4.33 6.04 1.35 18.04
6. Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day 2005 Misc Nintendo 3.41 5.32 5.32 1.18 15.23
7. Pokémon Black / White Version 2010 Role-Playing Nintendo 5.23 2.79 5.62 0.89 14.53
8. Animal Crossing: Wild World 2005 Simulation Nintendo 2.43 3.23 5.33 0.83 11.83
9. Pokémon Heart Gold / Soul Silver Version 2009 Role-Playing Nintendo 4.16 2.57 3.96 0.76 11.46
10. Super Mario 64 DS 2004 Platform Nintendo 4.74 2.91 1.25 0.95 9.85
11. Mario Party DS 2007 Misc Nintendo 4.23 1.73 1.98 0.69 8.63
12. Pokémon Platinum Version 2008 Role-Playing Nintendo 2.68 1.62 2.69 0.53 7.51
13. Big Brain Academy 2005 Misc Nintendo 1.65 2.69 1.60 0.61 6.55
14. Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies 2009 Role-Playing Nintendo 0.53 0.62 4.35 0.15 5.65
15. Pokemon Black / White Version 2 2012 Role-Playing Nintendo 1.51 0.90 2.85 0.27 5.53
16. Cooking Mama 2006 Simulation 505 Games 2.90 1.88 0.07 0.57 5.42
17. Professor Layton and the Curious Village 2007 Adventure Nintendo 1.18 2.33 1.03 0.51 5.05
18. Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games 2008 Sports Nintendo 1.61 2.38 0.44 0.57 5.01

PS2:

1. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 2004 Action Take-Two Interactive 9.43 8.48 0.41 2.49 20.81
2. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City 2002 Action Take-Two Interactive 8.41 5.49 0.47 1.78 16.15
3. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec 2001 Racing Sony Computer Entertainment 6.85 4.99 1.87 1.16 14.88
4. Grand Theft Auto III 2001 Action Take-Two Interactive 6.99 4.51 0.30 1.30 13.10
5. Gran Turismo 4 2004 Racing Sony Computer Entertainment 3.01 5.63 1.10 1.62 11.36
6. Final Fantasy X 2001 Role-Playing Sony Computer Entertainment 2.91 2.07 2.73 0.33 8.05
7. Need for Speed Underground 2003 Racing Electronic Arts 3.27 2.83 0.08 1.02 7.20
8. Need for Speed Underground 2 2004 Racing Electronic Arts 2.71 3.02 0.08 1.09 6.90
9. Medal of Honor: Frontline 2002 Shooter Electronic Arts 2.93 2.75 0.17 0.99 6.83
10. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 2001 Action Konami Digital Entertainment 2.45 2.01 0.87 0.72 6.05
11. Final Fantasy XII 2006 Role-Playing Square Enix 1.88 1.19 2.33 0.54 5.95
12. Kingdom Hearts 2002 Role-Playing Sony Computer Entertainment 3.64 1.20 0.94 0.07 5.85
13. Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex 2001 Platform Universal Interactive 2.07 2.29 0.24 0.82 5.42
14. Final Fantasy X-2 2003 Role-Playing Electronic Arts 1.92 1.08 2.11 0.17 5.29
15. Madden NFL 2004 N/A Sports Electronic Arts 4.26 0.26 0.01 0.71 5.23
16. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King 2004 Role-Playing Square Enix 0.65 0.75 3.61 0.20 5.21
17. Medal of Honor: Rising Sun 2003 Shooter Electronic Arts 1.98 2.23 0.13 0.80 5.13
18. Guitar Hero II 2006 Misc RedOctane 3.81 0.63 0.00 0.68 5.12

The DS library is significantly more front-oriented than the PS2 library, which is why the number of 5 million sellers is the same despite the PS2 having more than double the DS total software sales.

For further evidence, the DS had 129 games sell more than one million copies, but the PS2 has 325. It's completely safe to say that the PS2 wins the software war by the sheer depth of its library, while the DS hardware is the David to PS2's Goliath. And indisputably, both of these systems have a place in my gamer heart. Sly Cooper, Ratchect & Clank, Advance Wars, and Ace Attorney are easily my favorite franchises on those excellent systems.



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platformmaster918 said:
KungKras said:
platformmaster918 said:
KungKras said:

I'm sorry but Pokemon + 2D Mario + Mario Kart + Chrono Trigger + Dragon Quest and Squeenix RPG galore in combo is not a fair opponent to any system except the PC.

DS by a lightyear.

Chrono Trigger is on PS2 due to BC.  Squeenix RPG galore as well with new ones plus the PSone ones.

Yes, but the DS has all that as well plus 2D Mario, Mario Kart, and freakin Pokemon!

ok and PS2 has gran Turismo, Burnout, Jak, Ratchet, Sly, Team ICO games, God of War, Tony Hawk (when it was cool), Socom (again when it was awesome), DMC, and like a gazillion others.

DS also has a gazzillion other games. But I don't even have to mention that, because Pokemon > all those games you mentioned combined... Because it's freaking Pokemon!



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platformmaster918 said:
KungKras said:

I'm sorry but Pokemon + 2D Mario + Mario Kart + Chrono Trigger + Dragon Quest and Squeenix RPG galore in combo is not a fair opponent to any system except the PC.

DS by a lightyear.

Chrono Trigger is on PS2 due to BC.  Squeenix RPG galore as well with new ones plus the PSone ones.

Wait, are we counting backwards compatibility towards the systems' libraries? I would have, but the OP didn't mention it, and this is pezus's thread, so I wouldn't question it.

But if you're sure you want to do that, you're adding Super Mario World, Super Mario Bros. 3, A Link to the Past, The Minish Cap, Metroid Fusion & Zero Mission, 2 F-Zero games, more great Pokémon, Castlevania, Fire Emblem, and Advance Wars games, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Golden Sun, and enough Squeenix RPGs to nearly break even with PS1, including FF Tactics Advance, FF 1&2 (Dawn of Souls), and FFVI to the mix.



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the_dengle said:
platformmaster918 said:
KungKras said:

I'm sorry but Pokemon + 2D Mario + Mario Kart + Chrono Trigger + Dragon Quest and Squeenix RPG galore in combo is not a fair opponent to any system except the PC.

DS by a lightyear.

Chrono Trigger is on PS2 due to BC.  Squeenix RPG galore as well with new ones plus the PSone ones.

Wait, are we counting backwards compatibility towards the systems' libraries? I would have, but the OP didn't mention it, and this is pezus's thread, so I wouldn't question it.

But if you're sure you want to do that, you're adding Super Mario World, Super Mario Bros. 3, A Link to the Past, The Minish Cap, Metroid Fusion & Zero Mission, 2 F-Zero games, more great Pokémon, Castlevania, Fire Emblem, and Advance Wars games, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Golden Sun, and enough Squeenix RPGs to nearly break even with PS1, including FF Tactics Advance, FF 1&2 (Dawn of Souls), and FFVI to the mix.

shouldn't count remakes the same as original games though




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platformmaster918 said:

shouldn't count remakes the same as original games though

That seems like an arbitrary restriction, especially considering the PS family has just as many remakes and collections as the DS. Plus, most of the remakes (especially of NES games) are considerably enhanced for their PS/PS2/GBA/DS releases.

I mean, if you can play Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI on either console, why shouldn't those count for more than whatever much lesser RPGs may have been made for the systems?



For me, easily the DS - and I didn't even care much for the Zelda games for it.

To me, the PS2 had a lot of pretty good games but only one exceptional game, RE4, which I prefer on the Gamecube. Other good games that were on PS2 (Splinter Cell, Viewtiful Joe, etc) I also prefer on other consoles.

Regarding exclusives, I did really like the GOWs and MGS3 Subsistence, though. And I've never played much of SotC.



Ps2 has the better library, love them both.



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I win if one of the 5 mulitplats are on par or superior on the Wii U.

pezus said:

Nah, we shouldn't count backwards compatibility I think. It complicates things way too much. We're just looking at the software support for each system

Alright, now that's out of the way, what of remakes and compilations? Mega Man X Collection & Mega Man Zero Collection, etc.?