i hope the WiiU will sell better in the future.
| Train wreck said:
Wii U exclusive software fares poorly this week, with Nintendo Land slipping from 11th to 26th. The game is bundled with the Premium Wii U hardware SKU, pointing to weak sales of the consoles in its second week. |
Chart-Track don't track bundled games.
| Aielyn said: You're comparing a gaming system with smartphone. They are not comparable in this manner. And again, as I said, oftentimes the image of being hard to get drives immediate demand up, as people try harder to get them earlier due to the fear that they won't be able to get one until much later than they intended. This is why the Wii sold so well early on - the self-reinforcing demand cycle. Comparing Wii with Wii U in this way is unreasonable. Meanwhile, I think you confuse core gamers with so-called hardcore gamers. Core gamers look at NSMB U, ZombiU, Black Ops 2, Scribblenauts, Assassin's Creed 3, Epic Mickey 2, Rabbids Land, and NintendoLand, and consider that to be quite a reasonable lineup for a launch, most likely with at least one of those games appealing to them. The self-professed "hardcore", on the other hand, will list off games not available for the system and go "that's why it has no games", rather than looking at what it actually has. And many will refuse to consider NSMB U, NintendoLand, or Scribblenauts to be appealing games because they aren't "teh maturez". In the longer term, there's plenty of exclusives and semi-exclusives that appeal to core gamers, including Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Dragon Quest X, Lego City Undercover, Pikmin 3, The Wonderful 101, Rayman Legends, and Bayonetta 2, to name the biggest confirmed ones. Again, most of these are titles that the so-called "hardcore" will refuse to pay attention to for one reason or another (MH3 and Bayonetta 2, probably because of the "traitor" element as they see it). The "hardcore" won't buy a Wii U unless given very strong reason to. Fortunately, the "hardcore" number in the hundreds of thousands at best, not in the millions. |
Very true, the nexus 4 is not a gaming console therefore the comparison should be obsolete...However the reason I brought it up, and I suppose I should have made it clear, was that one reason the Wii sold was due to it being an "in" gadget, something that the comparison shows that it is not.
I would say that the Wii sold well initially was because it had this "in" gadget status. Everyone and their mother (almost literally at times) wanted the Wii.
I'm not confusing core gamers with hardcore gamers. I think we need a quick re-cap of what your average core gamer will think when looking at those games:
NSMB U - either a)I've already got this on the wii or b)Mario? Pscht, gimmie gunz...
Zombi U - either appealing to PS3 fans or "i've played/got L4D"
Epic Mickey/AssCree/Black Ops 2 - irrelevant to anyone with a 360/ps3/pc capable of gaming
Scribblenauts/Rabbids/Nintyland - "kiddy" games. Whether that is the case or not is irrelevant as that's how they are viewed by core gamers
Not considering games as mature is a completely fair and true evaluation. No one is going to look at Disney and label it adult, or label Saw as for kids, and selling a brand new console with titles available on considerably older, cheaper consoles is not a good selling point. Marketing should have figured this out.
A lot of those titles fall under either the "where ma gunz" or "japanz stuff iz weeird man" category. Judgemental and a juvenile way to look at things, but that is how a lot of gamers think. With the average gamer being 35~ they don't want to look like a geek/nerd in front of their spouse or kids.
The core gamer won't buy a wii U for two main reasons:
1) A lot of the games on the wii u are on their existing console
1ii) Means setting up a new online community as well
2) Those games don't really show anything new or interesting.
Also if the gamer is well informed he/she may be aware that next year a new xbox may be coming out.
If the wii u had released a console capable of playing a launch title that looked like the samaritin demo, I can guarentee you sales would be mich higher. Sadly though I predict a Gamecube-esque life span of the wii u. In terms of sales, optimistically high 20's, pessimisticallly, dreamcast.
I LOVE GIGGS said:
Chart-Track don't track bundled games. |
Yes they do. They don't track it if it's only available in a bundle (Wii Sports/Kinect Adventures/etc). Otherwise, how do you explain Nintendo Land outselling NSMBU when 60% of owners (for the first week at least) already got it through a bundle?
| happydolphin said:
Nintendo has something that the smartphones don't have, and that's Nintendo's IPs (bar very minor exceptions). Also, if you were right, the 3DS would agree with you. But it doesn't. Ie, Nintendo IPs > smartphones threat. |
But they do have straight up clones of them, lol
http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/en-GB/app/zelda-game/72246f9d-6a39-4180-ac70-35b344bf39f7
Yakuzaice said:
Yes they do. They don't track it if it's only available in a bundle (Wii Sports/Kinect Adventures/etc). Otherwise, how do you explain Nintendo Land outselling NSMBU when 60% of owners (for the first week at least) already got it through a bundle? |
I think you're right. I didn't notice that.
Do anybody know if the UK data (and sales data in general) include digital sales? I'm just curious because I think all WiiU games are sold digitally as well as on discs.
| mjo011 said: Do anybody know if the UK data (and sales data in general) include digital sales? I'm just curious because I think all WiiU games are sold digitally as well as on discs. |
No
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