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Conegamer on 08 December 2012
Nsanity said:
So, when will we be getting some numbers?

Unless Nintendo release otherwise (unlikely) then Wednesday.



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

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Meret on 08 December 2012

Rumor saying that Nintendo prepared just around 300K for japanese launch, so I'm expecting 280K or so. Which is still good! Nintendo will definetely rule this holiday season there... just look at the amazon... 17 out of 20 positions - Nintendo themed... http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=pd_ts_zgc_vg_videogames_more?pf_rd_p=113885689&pf_rd_s=right-5&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=489986&pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_rd_r=0CCVMRHDYAH50HEM0MJV



Lafiel on 08 December 2012

I think they may dominate the japanese home console market with WiiU even harder than they did with the Wii. The Wii managed to slowly get all the major franchises for that particular market on board, but with the WiiU they are there from the get go and several of the smaller ones might take the leap aswell, especially because it probably has a year or more headstart on Sony's next console.

In my opinion there is just no way for Sony to come back from that, so I'm pretty certain at the end of the new console cycle japanese home console market shares are about 70/26/4, while this gen it might end with 54/40/6.



JTurner82 on 08 December 2012
Lafiel said:
I think they may dominate the japanese home console market with WiiU even harder than they did with the Wii. The Wii managed to slowly get all the major franchises for that particular market on board, but with the WiiU they are there from the get go and several of the smaller ones might take the leap aswell, especially because it probably has a year or more headstart on Sony's next console.

In my opinion there is just no way for Sony to come back from that, so I'm pretty certain at the end of the new console cycle japanese home console market shares are about 70/26/4, while this gen it might end with 54/40/6.


That's what I'm predicting as well.  Western 3rd parties will be probably (and unfortunately) fickle about WiiU, but Japanese 3rd parties will be there from the start.



Meret on 08 December 2012
TeddostheFireKing said:
gentii said:
i think this is a Great Strategic management from Nintendo to Capture the Japan ! 3DS+ Wii U= 90% Nintendo

After Japan its too easy to Capture NA and EU


I agree that Nintendo will do well in Japan, but I don't quite understand why that success will extend to America and Europe. Historically your correct that consoles that do well in Japan do well elsewhere, but more recently, the PSP did well in Japan and terrible in the West, the 360 did terrible in Japan and great in the west and the 3DS is doing great in Japan but average in the west. Can you explain your point?


I  must admit, I was hoping to see pictures from Japan in this article :(

PSP did well in Japan, but most of its sales come from the West (from WW 70M Japan is 19M). 3DS is still leading portable game console of this generation (3DS / Vita race, I mean). So it's very simple.



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d21lewis on 08 December 2012

So my thread worked even better than I thought!



Meret on 08 December 2012
Lafiel said:
I think they may dominate the japanese home console market with WiiU even harder than they did with the Wii. The Wii managed to slowly get all the major franchises for that particular market on board, but with the WiiU they are there from the get go and several of the smaller ones might take the leap aswell, especially because it probably has a year or more headstart on Sony's next console.

In my opinion there is just no way for Sony to come back from that, so I'm pretty certain at the end of the new console cycle japanese home console market shares are about 70/26/4, while this gen it might end with 54/40/6.

I agree with you. Japanese don't care much about mega graphics, they'll have system with great features and popular games (Nintendo biggest ip's + Dragon Quest (from last gen only released on Nintendo platroms... wii+ds - and now 3ds + wii u message clearly sent) + Monster Hunter (of cos 3g not be alone) + others and many niche projects. It can be successful. There's 17 of 20 positions on Amazon Japan are for nintendo products right now... http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=pd_ts_zgc_vg_videogames_more?pf_rd_p=113885689&pf_rd_s=right-5&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=489986&pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_rd_r=0CCVMRHDYAH50HEM0MJV another nintendo holiday.



TeddostheFireKing on 08 December 2012
Meret said:
TeddostheFireKing said:
gentii said:
i think this is a Great Strategic management from Nintendo to Capture the Japan ! 3DS+ Wii U= 90% Nintendo

After Japan its too easy to Capture NA and EU


I agree that Nintendo will do well in Japan, but I don't quite understand why that success will extend to America and Europe. Historically your correct that consoles that do well in Japan do well elsewhere, but more recently, the PSP did well in Japan and terrible in the West, the 360 did terrible in Japan and great in the west and the 3DS is doing great in Japan but average in the west. Can you explain your point?


I  must admit, I was hoping to see pictures from Japan in this article :(

PSP did well in Japan, but most of its sales come from the West (from WW 70M Japan is 19M). 3DS is still leading portable game console of this generation (3DS / Vita race, I mean). So it's very simple.

Yes, but for the most part, Western games sell well in the west and Japanese games do well in Japan (excluding first party). These don't normally overlap, the only exceptions are Konami (MGS and PES in areas), Capcom (SF, RE and others do moderately well) and Final Fantasy. Now these games aren't announced for the WiiU yet (PES may be, but I don't think it is), but otherwise, Japanese games won't sell the WiiU to Westerners.

Similarly, the PSP did well in the West when Western games came to the system, when that support died, sales dropped, even when Japanese games kept coming. The 3DS is killing the Vita right now, but it's hardly getting insane sales in the west compared to the DS or Gameboy because although Japanese games are there, western ones aren't.



JTurner82 on 08 December 2012
TeddostheFireKing said:
Meret said:
TeddostheFireKing said:
gentii said:
i think this is a Great Strategic management from Nintendo to Capture the Japan ! 3DS+ Wii U= 90% Nintendo

After Japan its too easy to Capture NA and EU


I agree that Nintendo will do well in Japan, but I don't quite understand why that success will extend to America and Europe. Historically your correct that consoles that do well in Japan do well elsewhere, but more recently, the PSP did well in Japan and terrible in the West, the 360 did terrible in Japan and great in the west and the 3DS is doing great in Japan but average in the west. Can you explain your point?


I  must admit, I was hoping to see pictures from Japan in this article :(

PSP did well in Japan, but most of its sales come from the West (from WW 70M Japan is 19M). 3DS is still leading portable game console of this generation (3DS / Vita race, I mean). So it's very simple.

Yes, but for the most part, Western games sell well in the west and Japanese games do well in Japan (excluding first party). These don't normally overlap, the only exceptions are Konami (MGS and PES in areas), Capcom (SF, RE and others do moderately well) and Final Fantasy. Now these games aren't announced for the WiiU yet (PES may be, but I don't think it is), but otherwise, Japanese games won't sell the WiiU to Westerners.

Similarly, the PSP did well in the West when Western games came to the system, when that support died, sales dropped, even when Japanese games kept coming. The 3DS is killing the Vita right now, but it's hardly getting insane sales in the west compared to the DS or Gameboy because although Japanese games are there, western ones aren't.


Considering how WiiU is posed to hit in the Japanese market, I'm willing to bet they will be announced.



TeddostheFireKing on 08 December 2012
JTurner82 said:
TeddostheFireKing said:
Meret said:
TeddostheFireKing said:
gentii said:

 

Yes, but for the most part, Western games sell well in the west and Japanese games do well in Japan (excluding first party). These don't normally overlap, the only exceptions are Konami (MGS and PES in areas), Capcom (SF, RE and others do moderately well) and Final Fantasy. Now these games aren't announced for the WiiU yet (PES may be, but I don't think it is), but otherwise, Japanese games won't sell the WiiU to Westerners.

Similarly, the PSP did well in the West when Western games came to the system, when that support died, sales dropped, even when Japanese games kept coming. The 3DS is killing the Vita right now, but it's hardly getting insane sales in the west compared to the DS or Gameboy because although Japanese games are there, western ones aren't.


Considering how WiiU is posed to hit in the Japanese market, I'm willing to bet they will be announced.

I admit Capcom will probably release a Resident Evil game at some point for the WiiU and a PES game is certain, but I'm not convinced MGS is coming over (especially with Ground Zeroes and now 5 reportedly on PS3/360), I'm not sure how often Capcom plans to release SF games, but considering Tatsunoko vs. Capcom sold poorly, I'm not certain there is an audience for fighters on Nintendo platforms right now.

Square games could go either way, I was certain there would be a Kingdom Hearts game for the Wii, but that didn't happen and with the Kingdom Hearts 1.5 port not announced for the Wii-U, I don't think its going to see much love here. Final Fantasy is also highly unlikely, but we'll see. Dragon Quest is here now, but they normally release DQ titles on the system with the highest sales, so I think the next game in line is going to be on the 3DS anyway.