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Agree about the studio, not sure about bond being exclusive as it is a licesne that requires it to be everywhere, but a nice thought if it could happen.



 

 

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blackstarr said:
Soundwave said:

 

Looks like Eurocom, developer of games like GoldenEye 007 on Wii/Reloaded on PS3/360, Sphinx, The World Is Not Enough (N64), 007: Nightfire (PS2/XBox/GC) is closing their doors in part because it seems like were forced to develop 007 Legends at gunpoint for this fall to coincide with the new Bond movie's release. 

Unfortunate. GoldenEye was probably the best third party Wii game IMO and the engine was successfully up-ported to next-gen. 

I wish Nintendo had moved in here and made a deal with Activision. They take on the studio, but pare it down to the 100 (from 200) best people, and in turn Activision effectively "lends" Nintendo the Bond/007 license. They make a Bond game exclusive for the Wii U to be delievered in 2014, overseen by Nintendo. 

What does this mean?? Developing a game had to do with their closing?

They probably took in too many resources to develop the game to coincide with the movie release and went over the budget, the sales probably didnt help and all in all broke them down kinda similar to what happened to L.A. Noire.



    

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Soundwave said:
digitalnasties said:
The Eurocom brand has been tarnished from the Goldeneye Reloaded backstabbing, best Nintendo don't touch that.


A developer porting a game a year later to other platforms is not "backstabbing" lol. 


It is when Nintendo put money and time into the project, and the game was sold as a system exclusive, no wonder sales bombed when news of the port broke. 

 



 

ganoncrotch said:
Salnax said:
ganoncrotch said:
SaviorX said:
I would actually agree with this kind of acquisition; they could fill a void Nintendo has had empty since Rare left.


that's a void that no one will fill.


Although Retro has helped ease the pain.


aye retro studios are really amazing but when microsoft took rare from nintendo they destroyed Rare and Done some pretty bad damage to the big N forever. the Rare name is on Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports :s

No, the people that sold Rare destroyed Rare. Bear in mind Rare didn't have the ability to create games that appeal to the Xbox audience (original and 360). Casual games sell best on Nintendo platforms. The very same games Rare put on MS platforms would have been more successful on the Wii.

Rare has nothing to do with Kinect Adventures. Kinect Sports has sold quite well and are geneinely great motion party games.



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seinsmeld said:
i agree they need a definitive 1st person shooter on the the wiiu. i loved goldeneye wii. with a little guidance it would have been a good deal


They already do in Retro essentially, many Retro members were part of the studio behind the N64 Turok games you can see it in the Prime games essentially, buying Eurocom defeats the purpose of them setting up Retro in the first place as Retro are Nintendo's dedicated western studio. For Nintendo to buy a studio they have to offer something their other studios don't really focus on much like Monolith do JRPGs (Nintendo's own rpgs can't really be classed as JRPGs), they'd much rather recruit people into their studios then buy developers left and right.



I don't particularly care about the 007 license one way or another, but Eurocom did good work on Wii. Not sure if the decision to bring GoldenEye to HD consoles was their's and definitely sure they don't own the license to Bond games, but they were a good developer.

There are many examples of good developers who served an important niche on Nintendo consoles and later went under: Factor 5, Free Radical, Silicon Knights (not sure how good they really were tbh) etc. Nintendo weren't interested in bailing them out either.

I just hope they know what they are doing and make these decisions based on the right considerations.



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Mr Puggsly said:
ganoncrotch said:
Salnax said:
ganoncrotch said:
SaviorX said:
I would actually agree with this kind of acquisition; they could fill a void Nintendo has had empty since Rare left.


that's a void that no one will fill.


Although Retro has helped ease the pain.


aye retro studios are really amazing but when microsoft took rare from nintendo they destroyed Rare and Done some pretty bad damage to the big N forever. the Rare name is on Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports :s

No, the people that sold Rare destroyed Rare. Bear in mind Rare didn't have the ability to create games that appeal to the Xbox audience (original and 360). Casual games sell best on Nintendo platforms. The very same games Rare put on MS platforms would have been more successful on the Wii.

Rare has nothing to do with Kinect Adventures. Kinect Sports has sold quite well and are geneinely great motion party games.

The likes of Killer Instinct/ perfect dark and even their platformers on the N64 of DK64 and Conkers bad fur day were by no means casual games, Rare were capable of so much more than that goldeneye was their work... to go from that to Kinect sports/Kinect sports season 2 and the upcoming Kinect sports season 3 is fairly sad to see.



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ganoncrotch said:
Mr Puggsly said:
ganoncrotch said:
Salnax said:
ganoncrotch said:
SaviorX said:
I would actually agree with this kind of acquisition; they could fill a void Nintendo has had empty since Rare left.


that's a void that no one will fill.


Although Retro has helped ease the pain.


aye retro studios are really amazing but when microsoft took rare from nintendo they destroyed Rare and Done some pretty bad damage to the big N forever. the Rare name is on Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports :s

No, the people that sold Rare destroyed Rare. Bear in mind Rare didn't have the ability to create games that appeal to the Xbox audience (original and 360). Casual games sell best on Nintendo platforms. The very same games Rare put on MS platforms would have been more successful on the Wii.

Rare has nothing to do with Kinect Adventures. Kinect Sports has sold quite well and are geneinely great motion party games.

The likes of Killer Instinct/ perfect dark and even their platformers on the N64 of DK64 and Conkers bad fur day were by no means casual games, Rare were capable of so much more than that goldeneye was their work... to go from that to Kinect sports/Kinect sports season 2 and the upcoming Kinect sports season 3 is fairly sad to see.

There hasn't been a KI, but there was a Perfect Dark on the 360. Not a very good game.

I won't argue whether or not DK64 and Conker are casual games. But I know platformers like those generally sell better to casual gamers. I'm pretty sure platformers have sold better on N64, Gamecube, and Wii than Xbox and Xbox 360.

I don't think its sad that they've had great success with Kinect Sports. I think its more sad when people get fired and the studio disappears. Maybe Rare will surprise us with something down the road. We'll just have to wait and see.



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