No.

Half the fun of being on these forums is seeing Pachter quotes.

Umm no.

If what you say about Pachter here is true, and what he says publicly is his real analysis, then it means that Pachter is absolutely atrocious as an analyst. Why do I say this? Because his analysis is his product, the thing he sells, and the only reason to give it out publicly for free is if nobody considers it worth paying for.

So in the end, that's the question for you to think about: WHY is he making his "analyses" public?

And for the record, he is not one of only two analysts looking at the game industry, he's one of only two that make PUBLIC any sort of analysis (and even then, there's a few more that do some public release, like Anita Frazier - but she speaks of numbers in her public info, not speculation).

And no, Pachter doesn't admit wrongness. Note that I'm not talking about the results, but the analyses that he purportedly provides. He will admit that he was wrong about, for instance, Nintendo releasing a Wii HD in 2009... but he was wrong because Nintendo made a bad decision not to release it, not because he misread the situation. It wasn't his fault, Nintendo didn't act sensibly... that's the sort of "I was wrong" that you get from him.

So I'll say it again - if you assume competence from Pachter, then either he's acting as a PR guy for some company by releasing FUD analyses, or he's moonlighting for money by making outlandish claims for clicks. If you can provide another explanation for why he's wrong far more than he's right, never admits to a flaw in the analysis itself, continues to be employed by an analysis company, and yet releases large amounts of "analysis" publicly, then I'm all ears.

I didnt say there was only two, i said there were two primary analyst, as in the main ones everybody goes to.

also, where did i say his public statements is his real analysis?  Im sure he has a very comprehensive analysis with number projections and everything that he gives to his paying clients.  The stuff he says publicly is mostly opinion stuff in response to game journalists questions.

you dont like pachter saying that nintendo missed a business oppurtunity to release a console back in 2010?  Honestly, if nintendo was smart they probably should have launched before kinect and move came out. I dont see your problem here, he admits he is wrong on the event, but sticks with his reasoning as to why the event should have happened.  He is an analyst, should he not think about ways companies could capitalize on oppurtunities?

if you read the link pachter says he is wrong all the time, as will any analyst out there.  They are basically just professional guessers...

I agree about Wii HD. That was one of Pachter's wisest analyses. It was still a bad prediction -- because it didn't happen -- but it was an excellent analysis of the market and of Nintendo's competition.

However, this is the one shining beacon in a sea of bad guesses, wrong ideas, and histrionics. He is a poor analyst.

Once again, he doesn't say he's wrong, he says that Nintendo was wrong not to do what he says. That's bad analysis. A good analyst would ask "why didn't Nintendo do what I expected", and seek to improve their analysis.

And yes, Pachter expresses opinion... which people treat as though they're analyses because he's an "analyst". His opinion is no more valid than the opinion of anyone else. Note that he is expressing his opinion... but he couches it in analysis terms, even though there's no analysis to justify it.

Should a Wii HD have been released in 2010? Maybe... but probably not. They had enough trouble getting the price low enough and the amount of value in the product high enough to justify it in late 2012. Even a casual observation of the situation now reveals that such an option wasn't truly available. Nintendo's only option in 2010 would have been to release a console which was just a superpowered Wii... which is completely against Nintendo's stated approach to game systems. Nintendo's position was on the record since 2005, and anyone paying attention knew that there wasn't going to be a Wii HD in 2010. Which leads to the obvious question... why the hell didn't Pachter, an "analyst", pay attention to what Nintendo had been saying before he predicted a Wii HD in 2009?

He is an analyst, his job isn't to tell companies how to capitalise on opportunities, but to tell them what opportunities are available in the first place. The analyst's job is to analyse the industry and provide their analysis. And if Pachter isn't being paid by Nintendo (if he was, he wouldn't be making public the advice he was giving), then why should Pachter be giving Nintendo advice? Oh, right - Nintendo releasing a Wii HD wouldn't have benefitted Nintendo, it would have benefitted certain third parties, mostly Activision and EA (to the detriment of a lot of smaller publishers).

So once again, I make the point - assuming competency, Pachter is either moonlighting by making outrageous predictions for clicks, or he's doing PR for some third party. To be clear, I don't think he's doing PR for Sony or MS - if he was, he wouldn't make certain other statements against Sony and MS.

Ban patcher quotes and quoters .. they all equally stupid..

meh @achter.

I am mostly in favour because posting Patcher is the same as trolling. There is no real purpose for posting his stuff since he is not a real videogame industry analyst, just some guy who likes repeatedly (week after week, month after month, year after year) saying Nintendo is doomed fueled by some illogical bias against the company.

Every time he is posted, it is the exact same reaction that a troll gets. So by the existing rules of VGchartz, that is trolling in the same way it would be quoting any other troll post or "article" and posting here.

If you don't like Patcher then don't post in the threads about his statements, it's really not rocket science. Just because he makes statements that annoy you doesn't mean the opinion should be censored.