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Forums - Sales Discussion - The PS3/Xbox 360 Holiday Sales Gap Thread! (Updated: January 11th) - ADJUSTMENTS! Last week is UP!, PS3 and X360 basically back to where the table began, PS3 1.5 million sold more then X360 in 2012

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SvennoJ said:
What's the sales lead for ps3 so far this year?
I have no doubt the 360 will sell more during the holidays but how much does it have to make up to take the year.


So far

PS3 7,489,241 (-47%) 67,996,976
X360 5,812,466 (-58%) 69,581,910


sales2099 said:
cookingyourmama said:
sales2099 said:
VGKing said:
Turkish said:
Is this the first time since 2009 PS3 gets in the lead?

No. PS3 was also in the lead throughout last year. It even ended up winning(according to VgChartz data)
This year the PS3 lead pre-holidays is even bigger. There is only 1 big bundle this year for 360 and that is Halo 4.(Last year they had Modern Warfare 3 and gears 3)

PS3 will easily win the year in both VgChartz data and official shipment numbers.

But it won't take 2nd. 360 just has to hold out one more year :)

There is NO magical cut off point for when a console stops selling, it sells until the last console is purchased and that determines who finishes in what position.

Theres the window of relevance, A.K.A when the generation is the most recent one....when the spotlight is on you.

After the WiiU releases, we are technically into the next gen. 360 fans can technically say they won the HD console wars for the gen. But I personally am going to do this the fun way.....wait until all 3 have released next gen hardware before declaring any sort of victory.Thats the cut off point.

Because when the spotlight is off Wii/PS3/360 and shifts to WiiU/PS4/720, is it really worth celebrating any victory from last gen? Celebrating taking not 1st, but 2nd.......7 years after release.........and only when the next models have released.

You can celebrate that if you want, but that looks like lowered standards and a hollow victory at best. PS3 has exactly one year to achieve any kind of victory that matters.

No point celebrating a racing victory when the race allready ended. Your just running extra laps while the people allready left the stadium to watch the next race unfold

But PS3 did outsell Xbox 360. During the time PS3 has been on the market PS3 has sold 67.7M consoles, in the same time period Xbox360 has sold ~63.5M consoles.

Current 2013 lead is 1.6 milion to PS3 (subject to adjustments), from BF to new year I think 360 could easily lead on average 200K per week, so depending on the Halo effect 360 could finish the year marginally ahead or marginally behind PS3, which given this is a sales estimate site means another statistical tie just like 2011.



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NobleTeam360 said:
Frank_kc said:

Sorry to disappoint some Xbox fans, but there is no COD BO2 bundle in USA. Halo 4 is the only bundled game and I don't see how will this boost sales since any one who likes to play Halo already owned an xbox in the past 7 years.


This is a fail comment on so many levels and shows that you have no idea what your talking about. 

How is it a failed comment?

 

Fact: No COD BO2 bundle for Xbox in USA

Fact: Most people who likes to play Halo already owns an Xbox

 

There is no doubt that Xbox will sell more this holiday in USA, but the difference wont be as big as people anticipate.



I look forward to seeing this unfold, but i expect the xbox lead to small this year at 300,000 for the 10 weeks



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binary solo said:

But PS3 did outsell Xbox 360. During the time PS3 has been on the market PS3 has sold 67.7M consoles, in the same time period Xbox360 has sold ~63.5M consoles.

Current 2013 lead is 1.6 milion to PS3 (subject to adjustments), from BF to new year I think 360 could easily lead on average 200K per week, so depending on the Halo effect 360 could finish the year marginally ahead or marginally behind PS3, which given this is a sales estimate site means another statistical tie just like 2011.

Yeah 9 weeks. 1.68m difference.

-360 needs 186.6k average over the PS3 per week to draw level.

Many posters seem confident the PS3 will take the last week of the year, if that's the case it's 8 weeks to play catch up.In which case:

-360 needs 210k average over the PS3 per week to draw level.

That's only to level the numbers though and as you mentioned, there's the issue of a statistical tie.

Sorry that I'm basically just reiterating what you already posted, I was just interested in seeing the breakdown per week.



 

Gilgamesh said:
SvennoJ said:
What's the sales lead for ps3 so far this year?
I have no doubt the 360 will sell more during the holidays but how much does it have to make up to take the year.


So far

PS3 7,489,241 (-47%) 67,996,976
X360 5,812,466 (-58%) 69,581,910

What was the difference last year between the PS3 and 360 for the last 9/10 weeks of the year? 



 

sales2099 said:

heres the window of relevance, A.K.A when the generation is the most recent one....when the spotlight is on you.

After the WiiU releases, we are technically into the next gen. 360 fans can technically say they won the HD console wars for the gen. But I personally am going to do this the fun way.....wait until all 3 have released next gen hardware before declaring any sort of victory.Thats the cut off point.

Because when the spotlight is off Wii/PS3/360 and shifts to WiiU/PS4/720, is it really worth celebrating any victory from last gen? Celebrating taking not 1st, but 2nd.......7 years after release.........and only when the next models have released.

You can celebrate that if you want, but that looks like lowered standards and a hollow victory at best. PS3 has exactly one year to achieve any kind of victory that matters.

No point celebrating a racing victory when the race allready ended. Your just running extra laps while the people allready left the stadium to watch the next race unfold

I agree with the bolded. Once all 3 next gen consoles have released, Then you can declare a winner.



Frank_kc said:

Sorry to disappoint some Xbox fans, but there is no COD BO2 bundle in USA. Halo 4 is the only bundled game and I don't see how will this boost sales since any one who likes to play Halo already owned an xbox in the past 7 years.


I always hear that (and I used to think that) when a new COD or a new Halo comes out, but those games ALAWAYS manage to move hardware.

 

This is a hard time to be a sony fan, but I'm positive it's gonna have a decent holiday and an excellent start of 2013



Dallinor said:
Gilgamesh said:
SvennoJ said:
What's the sales lead for ps3 so far this year?
I have no doubt the 360 will sell more during the holidays but how much does it have to make up to take the year.


So far

PS3 7,489,241 (-47%) 67,996,976
X360 5,812,466 (-58%) 69,581,910

What was the difference last year between the PS3 and 360 for the last 9/10 weeks of the year? 

It was around 9,085,235 for the PS3 and 7,455,771 for the X360. So oddly enough the difference was pretty much the exact same as this years numbers.