Forums - Nintendo Discussion - The Wii is a gen 6 console (Hiroshi Yamauchi)

Wii and DS are gen 6 after all.

I'm shocked.
That's bull.
I don't care, the games were fun anyways.
Too bad, missed opportunity.
happydolphin said:
I don't know how to put it to you guys. Of course the Wii is a new console, it just was a new gen 6 console.

Yes, WiiBox3, you're right, it was more powerful than the gamecube, but it was still in the level of gen 6 consoles, and did little to differentiate itself from gen 6 performance-wise.

All I'm saying is what we already know, I just wanted to show that all of Nintendo's leadership saw it the same way, including Yamauchi.


That may have been how the powers at be at Nintedo felt at the time, but as we all know a console isn't finalised until they start the mass production. Even the dev kits are often very different in terms of specs (gpu, cpu, etc) up until very close to the release of a console. This doesn't mean Nintendo's leadership changed it's mind on how they saw project dolphin. It was orginally a Add on for the GameCube.

That pattent was submitted just a couple of months before they unvield the Wii console. A lot can change in a few months let alone two years before release.



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^True, but don't you think that may have been a plan running in parallel with the Wii, if it was submitted only a few months before the unveiling? The Wii certainly took more than a few months to design, at least a year if not 2-3.



I've always wanted to know for sure whether Yamauchi was really the leading mind behind the Wii philosophy and this thread confirmed it. Thanks.


^You're very welcome Valdney.

1. Wii-remote, Wii Balance board and Wii Wheel were conceived as GC add-ons to extend the life of the console (much like Kinect is for MS and the X360).

2. The corporate marketing philosophy was 'new gen, not next gen". Again, it's a marketing philosophy which falls in line with the oft mentioned Blue Ocean strategy.

3. It later became understood that the concept would be better realized and successful with a new console rather than as a market divergent peripheral of the GC.

4. Wii console itself conceived AFTER gesture based controller was developed.

5. Wii is launched in November of 2006 as the flagship console successor to the Gamecube thereby establishing itself as a 7th generation video game console.


Any questions?

The rEVOLution is not being televised

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Viper1 said:
1. Wii-remote, Wii Balance board and Wii Wheel were conceived as GC add-ons to extend the life of the console (much like Kinect is for MS and the X360).

2. The corporate marketing philosophy was 'new gen, not next gen". Again, it's a marketing philosophy which falls in line with the oft mentioned Blue Ocean strategy.

3. It later became understood that the concept would be better realized and successful with a new console rather than as a market divergent peripheral of the GC.

4. Wii console itself conceived AFTER gesture based controller was developed.

5. Wii is launched in November of 2006 as the flagship console successor to the Gamecube thereby establishing itself as a 7th generation video game console.


Any questions?

Yah. *raises hands* For point five, what exactly was the philosophy for Wii, the flagship console, and how does it differ from what Yamauchi said about what we now know as the Wii?



happydolphin said:
Viper1 said:
1. Wii-remote, Wii Balance board and Wii Wheel were conceived as GC add-ons to extend the life of the console (much like Kinect is for MS and the X360).

2. The corporate marketing philosophy was 'new gen, not next gen". Again, it's a marketing philosophy which falls in line with the oft mentioned Blue Ocean strategy.

3. It later became understood that the concept would be better realized and successful with a new console rather than as a market divergent peripheral of the GC.

4. Wii console itself conceived AFTER gesture based controller was developed.

5. Wii is launched in November of 2006 as the flagship console successor to the Gamecube thereby establishing itself as a 7th generation video game console.


Any questions?

Yah. *raises hands* For point five, what exactly was the philosophy for Wii, the flagship console, and how does it differ from what Yamauchi said about what we now know as the Wii?

Not really a whole lot.   But a marketing philosophy and a systematic generational organization construct are 2 seperate things.

In other words, "new gen, not next gen" is a marketing ploy like "blast processing" from Sega.   The intent is to get you to think of the hardware as something different, something unique, something unseen.   It doesn't alter it's place in the actual heirarchy of video game generations.



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Thank you. The marketing side of it I understand.

When it comes to the technical side of it (hardware performance), mind you, how does the the philosophy in the article differ from what we now know as the Wii?

So according to this thread, the PS1 would be a 4th generation console because it started out as a the SNES CD and the Saturn would be 4th gen because was originally conceived as a Genesis/Megadrive add on. Interesting

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happydolphin said:
Thank you. The marketing side of it I understand.

When it comes to the technical side of it (hardware performance), mind you, how does the the philosophy in the article differ from what we now know as the Wii?

It's irrelevant to teh generation it belongs to.  It wouldn't matter if Wii had the performance of an Magnavox Oddyssey or the K Super Computer in Japan.   The marketing concpet was such to pay more attention to the new methods of gaming input rather than the continual performance increases as a means to change gameplay that has been commonplace in previous generations.

The marketing philosophy behind the Wii as we know it and the originally conceived GC peripherals are largely the same.   But as I said, it's irrelevant regarding the organizational constructs of video game generations.  7th gen is 7th gen, regardless of the performance capabilites of the consoles contained therein.



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