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PSN to cost?

Hell no! 78 27.18%
 
F you, Pachter! 82 28.57%
 
Maybe 44 15.33%
 
Yes 52 18.12%
 
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ZaneWane on 15 April 2012

sony need money fast and charging for online will guarantee them safely from bankruptcy



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Chark on 15 April 2012
Capulous said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Um....yeah...Sony didnt charge people for online because the consensus before Microsoft came with a pay to play online policy was that online is a right that people already pay for when they pay their daily bills. The online servers are not dedicated unless the third party makes it so. People voted with their wallets that online gaming is no longer a right. They dont want rights...simple.

Xbox Live cannot cost zero to $60. Base price for the year is $60 if you want the year, if you want a lower price for the year look some place else. Do what my friend did, threaten Microsoft to cut off Xbox Live and they'll give you three years like they did him for the price of one year. Xbox Live doesn't need to paid for, which is why Microsoft does 2 months for two dollar deals. They just want nickels and dimes as I said before.

Its good that you like Xbox Live rewards...if you want to run their errands for very little thats you.

Xbox Live has just as many weekly deals as Free PSN as I said before.They are mostly trying to sell DLC and games that are no longer trending. I checked this morning.

Um, yeah Sony didn't charge because it was the consensus. LIVE was here and had a pay policy before Sony even had an inkling of PSN. If everything was based on consensus, then I don't see many people paying for anything. You pay for Xbox LIVE because you pay for the service they provide. If you don't like it, don't use it. That is very simple. If it was really that bad then MS will be forced to drop the yearly fee and just find another source of revenue. Since that hasn't happen, plenty of people are willing to pay for the service they provide.

Xbox LIVE cannot be a lower price, then you say it can be a lower price? That makes no sense. I paid $60 for $13 months last year and recieved a $60 game. To me I either got a free game or a free 13 month subscription to LIVE. 12-13month gold cards regularly cost ~$30 - $60 depending on various sales throughout the year. There are usually better deals by going through offers on LIVE.

I am fine with LIVE rewards as I said. Why don't you just discuss an issue stop with the pointless negative connotations. It's free, don't like it don't use it.

So, they have weekly deals and so does PSN. Are these games no longer trending in your opinion? Where is this list of $1200 in savings every month that PSN+ members get. I would like this see what $1200 worth of items are available for PSN members every month. I sure didn't find that much free stuff when I had it.

Pretty sure he meant annually, not monthly. That makes much more sense. I don't know if it would be $1200 but you could add up the price of all the items I listed earlier in this thread...if you are bored or something.



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

Chark on 15 April 2012
Capulous said:
I am actually not sure how they do it. Do they require you be connected to PSN before  you can even play the games?

I have downloaded a few free games off of LIVE, but I rarely search the marketplace. I prefer to have a physical copy of the games I purchase.


No you don't have to be online at all.



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

Capulous on 15 April 2012
Chark said:

Pretty sure he meant annually, not monthly. That makes much more sense. I don't know if it would be $1200 but you could add up the price of all the items I listed earlier in this thread...if you are bored or something.

That still doesn't make sense. He claims that it can only cost $60, then goes on to say that you need to look elsewhere for a lower price for the year?

I doubt that list of games would add up to $1200. What if you already have most of those games? Then what are you getting from the PSN+?



Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 15 April 2012
Chark said:
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
VGKing said:
kivi95 said:
To be honest I would not be suprised if PSN would cost money on PS4. Looking at how much money MS are getting from Xbox Live i'm sure Sony wants that too.


Look at Vita.
Did Sony take away features? No. In fact they added cross game voice chat FOR FREE.

Yes, Sony will keep adding features exclusive to PSN+ but what PSN currently offers for free, will stay free on the PS4.


They added Crossgamechat on the Psvita because it had more "ram" than the ps3. 

Ps3 doesnt have enough to inherit it. Lol.

What? The specs allowing it to happen on the Vita compared to the PS3 has nothing to do with the fact it was included without charging.

Sony would've done it for free anyway. Psn for free is a selling point.



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PikaPikachu on 15 April 2012

I'm not an onlime gamer, and i only pop on maybe once a week or two, so this decision would really hurt me



JazzyJeez on 15 April 2012
Capulous said:

That still doesn't make sense. He claims that it can only cost $60, then goes on to say that you need to look elsewhere for a lower price for the year?

I doubt that list of games would add up to $1200. What if you already have most of those games? Then what are you getting from the PSN+?


And that's a problem unique to PSN+?

What you expect Sony to do, inspect every users purchase history to give a unique update?

It's like saying a store isn't having a sale because you've already got the discounted items.



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binary solo on 15 April 2012

You mean there's more to free PSN than online multiplayer and the ability to buy stuff off PSN store? Oh yeah, static themes, which I can do without and Playstation Home, which I never use. Anything else I should be worried about?



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S.T.A.G.E. on 15 April 2012
Capulous said:

VGKing said:

Online Gaming should always be free. Ever played a PC game?
There is nothing "premiium" about online gaming on XBox Live. Those games like COD use the same kind of servers as on PSN, which is Peer to Peer.

Free Online gaming is a RIGHT. Do you know how many people would protest if PC games started charging for online? You know I thinkg Microsoft tried doing that with Games For Windows.. but it got trounced by Steam which was FREE.


Sure I have, plenty. Have you? There are games that are free to play online, and there are those that cost money. Games for Windows never had any cost associate with it when I started using it. It may have at one point. It is all in the preceived value of what each person is willing to pay for. If they think it is worth it, who are you to tell them they are wrong?

Free online gaming is not a right. That is ridiculous.


You're speaking of the top MMO's. Online gaming is a right. If you want a premium MMO you have the right to buy or ignore it. This EA has had their eye on Blizzard and WOW because they want some of that monthly profit. In other games third parties pay for the servers themselves. Xbox Live cannot be ignored because it renders the 360 useless without it.



S.T.A.G.E. on 15 April 2012
binary solo said:
You mean there's more to free PSN than online multiplayer and the ability to buy stuff off PSN store? Oh yeah, static themes, which I can do without and Playstation Home, which I never use. Anything else I should be worried about?


LOL...you say static themes when you know theres Dynamic themes.