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famousringo said:
Slimebeast said:

I want it to but the cold hard truth is that Windows Phone will never take on. When people have a choice they won't pick something with Windows in it because Windows just doesn't sound modern and interesting, it sounds old and it's forever associated with hassle and frustration.


I don't think this is the biggest problem with WinPho, but I agree it is a problem. Ballmer thinks Windows is a really powerful brand. Maybe it is in corporate IT, but as you say it comes with a lot of negative baggage in the mind of the consumer.

Ballmer needs to let go of this vision of Windows everywhere. If he'd been running things ten years ago, the Xbox might have been called "Microsoft Windows Home Standard Entertainment Edition."

I disagree. Windows is the Microsoft operating system and a proven brand. No reasons to change it. Windows brand sells more devices per year than iOS, Chrome, Andorid and Mac do combined.

 



Poor RIM :( At least they live on in Canada!

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Another problem with windows phone 7, at least here in the United States, is that verizon, US's biggest carrier, only offers one windows smartphone, and a very low end one at that. I was genuinely interested in buying one, but the single core processor and small nonscratchresistance screen turned me off.



enrageorange said:

Another problem with windows phone 7, at least here in the United States, is that verizon, US's biggest carrier, only offers one windows smartphone, and a very low end one at that. I was genuinely interested in buying one, but the single core processor and small nonscratchresistance screen turned me off.

ATT is biggest and they have Windows Phone monopoly with 5 devices and like 10 sold since last year. Tmobile had a few as well. Verizon just doesn't want Windows Phone till it gets LTE cause their 3G network is too congested to support new non 4G devices.



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The news here I guess is the decline of RIM. We will wait to see if the blade breathes new life into the brand but I doubt it.

Windows Phone will likely pick up with the Nokia launch as this has been the trend in other territories and as the 900 is a pretty sweet phone and pandas to the LTE/4G brigade should see it sell well. Nokia do know how to throw a party thats for sure.

The Windows Phone is also penetrating China and some would say that is a more interesting territory especially as they have low end devices to compete with Android. With plans to carry high and low devices on all Chinese carriers this year that is an awful lot of phone users...

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enrageorange said:

Another problem with windows phone 7, at least here in the United States, is that verizon, US's biggest carrier, only offers one windows smartphone, and a very low end one at that. I was genuinely interested in buying one, but the single core processor and small nonscratchresistance screen turned me off.





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disolitude said:
famousringo said:

I don't think this is the biggest problem with WinPho, but I agree it is a problem. Ballmer thinks Windows is a really powerful brand. Maybe it is in corporate IT, but as you say it comes with a lot of negative baggage in the mind of the consumer.

Ballmer needs to let go of this vision of Windows everywhere. If he'd been running things ten years ago, the Xbox might have been called "Microsoft Windows Home Standard Entertainment Edition."

I disagree. Windows is the Microsoft operating system and a proven brand. No reasons to change it. Windows brand sells more devices per year than iOS, Chrome, Andorid and Mac do combined.

 


False. Time to check your preconceptions.

Two years after WIndows 7 was released, Microsoft boasted it had sold nearly 450 million copies of the software. That works out to 616,000 copies a day.

Android announced in December that daily activations had exceeded 700,000.

In Apple's latest financials, they reported selling 57.6 million combined iPhones, iPads and Macs (iPods excluded because I'm too lazy to track down how many are Touch models. It's more than enough to make up for the Macs, I know that). That works out to 636,000 devices per day.

Welcome to the post-PC era. Android and iOS are already bigger than Windows and still growing rapidly. Windows isn't even growing at all. This is why Microsoft is so desperately trying to transform their desktop OS into a tablet OS.



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famousringo said:
disolitude said:
famousringo said:

I don't think this is the biggest problem with WinPho, but I agree it is a problem. Ballmer thinks Windows is a really powerful brand. Maybe it is in corporate IT, but as you say it comes with a lot of negative baggage in the mind of the consumer.

Ballmer needs to let go of this vision of Windows everywhere. If he'd been running things ten years ago, the Xbox might have been called "Microsoft Windows Home Standard Entertainment Edition."

I disagree. Windows is the Microsoft operating system and a proven brand. No reasons to change it. Windows brand sells more devices per year than iOS, Chrome, Andorid and Mac do combined.

 


False. Time to check your preconceptions.

Two years after WIndows 7 was released, Microsoft boasted it had sold nearly 450 million copies of the software. That works out to 616,000 copies a day.

Android announced in December that daily activations had exceeded 700,000.

In Apple's latest financials, they reported selling 57.6 million combined iPhones, iPads and Macs (iPods excluded because I'm too lazy to track down how many are Touch models. It's more than enough to make up for the Macs, I know that). That works out to 636,000 devices per day.

Welcome to the post-PC era. Android and iOS are already bigger than Windows and still growing rapidly. Windows isn't even growing at all. This is why Microsoft is so desperately trying to transform their desktop OS into a tablet OS.

I could argue your math or the fact you are only looking at this moment right now, after Windows 7 has been on the market for almost 3 years and is in its decline. Or I could just post an article explaining my point...http://gizmodo.com/5878036/microsoft-sells-more-windows-7-than-every-mac-ios-and-android-device-combined

I am fully aware of the post PC era and the cash grab behind it btw. I spent most of this week working on monetizing video ads on an iOS app. And guess which OS I had to use to do this...



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Windows Phone 7 sales are getting much better and will only pick up once Nokia and ATT start advertising. Windows Phone 8 will be a huge boost as well because we will get better phone resolutions and better cpus.