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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Ken Levine calls fallout an "important moment" for industry, says fans will be "very disappointed" if BioWare decides to write new ending.

RolStoppable said:
Idiotic analogy coming from the Bioware guy. A movie or book normally doesn't have multiple endings.

However, video games can have them and in the case of the Mass Effect series it was an advertised feature. There was no problem whatsoever to have the Mass Effect trilogy end with three (or more) different endings. Also, it only makes sense to have multiple endings, because the story isn't as static as in a movie or book where the consumer has to follow the story the one way it is being told.


wrong. Heavy Rain does (jk ^_^), and choose your own adventure adventure books.

OT: I agree, they shouldn't rewrite the ending because it sets bad precedent.

Such that devs can keep changing the ending in DLC until people like it. Granted that sounds like a brilliant scheme to make money.



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ClassicGamingWizzz said:

i totaly agree with him , do you ever seen filmmakers changing a movie ending ? or changing the end of a book ? what about the people who liked the ending ?

Yes. This has happened a lot of times. From video games, Fallout with Broken Steel DLC, Prince of Persia with it's DLC. From literature, Great Expectations by Charles Dickens had a revised ending because the original one was too sad. I don't know specific examples from movies, but even there are revisions from time to time.

And  would be such a bad thing to add more endings? The people who liked the cureent ones will still have them.

And honestly the problem isn't that the endings are sad, they are just bad. There are things that do not make sense and there isn't a lot of variety. We did not even get the Reapers win ending.



if that charity money goes up in an steady line I wonder what Bioware will do...



 

so having not played any of the ME games...what happens in the ending that's such a big deal??? i don't mind spoilers but you should probably hide them for the sake of others.



If the developers didn't want a certain ending but they are being hamstrung into it by fanboys ... I think that's wrong honestly.

If Squaresoft had brought back Aeries at the end of FF7 I think that would've made certain fans happy, but it also probably would've lessened the impact of the game's story as a whole, as big whoop ... a main character dies but is back by the end, no harm, no foul. 



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Totally agree with him, games are owned by the creators. If you don't like the ending of a game that is fine but I wouldn't expect a refund, just don't buy the next game by that publisher, or purchase add-on content released later.

I have to say though that I will prob not buy ME3 as a result of the negative press and I am sure I am not the only one, so sales will suffer and in turn send a message to the developer.



It's going to be interesting to see what happens anyway..



           

Actually, what I find sad is that Ken Levine is saying that. BioWare promised choice all through the Mass Effect series and outcomes based on the choices you made. But then the ending is basically the same for everyone, nullifying the validity of the choices you made throughout the games. Or at the very least, their ultimate purpose.

Knowing that Ken Levine can't understand the reasons behind gamers' upheaval is worrying. Especially because I respect him and his work (System Shock 2 and Bioshock mainly) and would hate to see him break professional promises like BioWare has done.



People also have the right to not buy the game. As an artist working for a public company, you are serving customers, not doing what you want because you want.

The game industry used to be about making the player happy. Now it's about artistic expression of the "big names" who direct or write or design the game (Even Nintendo has fallen into this trap severely - Metroid Other M, Galaxy 2, Skyward Sword).



kitler53 said:
so having not played any of the ME games...what happens in the ending that's such a big deal??? i don't mind spoilers but you should probably hide them for the sake of others.

This article covers it pretty well.

And one more that is not there, at a point during the final mission Sheperd gets flashbacks of 3 people important to him, one is of Joker, ship's pilot was in all 3 games, Anderson, helped out here and there, and the love interest, this one changes depending one who you romanced, however, it only works if it is someone from ME1, if you romanced someone from ME2 of ME3 it defaults to Liara, romanced no one, it defaults to Liara.