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carlos710 said:
Wii sports has been the biggest system seller this gen, so keep an eye on Wii MotorSports/Wii Music too.

And Animal Crossing will sell more than most games listed on this thread so far.

1. While probably true, it's hard to honestly gauge the impact of WiiSports when it is packed in with the system and was released at launch. With Halo3, it is easy to see the impact just by looking at the sales pre- and post-. I'd also suspect Mario Galaxy to be a system seller, except that the Wii was sold out before, during an after it's release, so again, impact is hard to demonstrate.

2. AC may sell many copies, but that's not the same as selling systems. Using the most extreme example, WiiPlay is a multiplatinum title, but I doubt many people bought a Wii to play it.



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misterd said:
carlos710 said:
 

What makes you think that so many unproven franchises are system sellers ? just because fanboys in forums hype them to death?

 

The only real system sellers in 08:

GTA 4, Gran turismo 5, MGS 4, Mario Kart, Smash bros brawl, Wii Fit, and may be Halo wars.


FF 13 is not coming out this year.


I don't necessarily think them system sellers. They seem to be ones that come up frequently, so I wanted the discussion focused on them (and, save for GTA4, I wanted to focus on console exclusives) so that these beliefs could be given some scrutiny.

And as far as I can tell FF13 is still scheduled for this year, even though I question if it will make it.


 Don't believe on forum hype. According to people on this site all Heavenly Sword, Warhawk and Lair were huge system sellers. heck,even Blacksite Area 51 was a system seller for the ps3 this past holidays (according to Diomedes)

 

Few games are true system sellers, regardless of their quality. 



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misterd said:

Lot's of fans toss the term around, but really there have been very few system sellers. This gen, I can definitively pinpoint just 2 - WiiSports and Halo3. But 2008 is shaping up to be the biggest year in this generation, possibly deciding the final winners and losers before the year is out, so there is a lot riding on these titles. So which, if any, of these will have the ability to sell systems on their own strength?

PS3

  • Killzone2
  • GTA4
  • Metal Gear Solid 4
  • Final Fantasy XIII
  • Singstar
  • Little Big Planet
  • Gran Tourismo 5
  • Home

360

  • GTA4 with exclusive content
  • HALO Wars 
  • Splinter Cell: Conviction
  • Too Human
  • Fable 2
  • Alan Wake
  • Left 4 Dead

Wii

  • Super Smash Bros
  • Mario Kart
  • WiiFit

Hmm... Wii's looking a little thin...


PS3 has the most impressive lineup I'd say with all of the games you named being System sellers, except Singstar, i don't think thats a system seller at all. The 3 wii ones will. I don't know about 360 though, most of its big "system seller" games are out already such as Halo 3 and Gears of War, but you could probably add Gears 2 to that list.



misterd said:
carlos710 said:
Wii sports has been the biggest system seller this gen, so keep an eye on Wii MotorSports/Wii Music too.

And Animal Crossing will sell more than most games listed on this thread so far.

1. While probably true, it's hard to honestly gauge the impact of WiiSports when it is packed in with the system and was released at launch. With Halo3, it is easy to see the impact just by looking at the sales pre- and post-. I'd also suspect Mario Galaxy to be a system seller, except that the Wii was sold out before, during an after it's release, so again, impact is hard to demonstrate.

2. AC may sell many copies, but that's not the same as selling systems. Using the most extreme example, WiiPlay is a multiplatinum title, but I doubt many people bought a Wii to play it.


 So whats your argument to claim that the next games are system sellers ?

  • Killzone2
  • Singstar
  • Little Big Planet
  • Home
  • HALO Wars 
  • Splinter Cell: Conviction
  • Too Human
  • Fable 2
  • Alan Wake
  • Left 4 Dead

I hope the answer is not "because posters hypes them a lot!"

 

At least in Japan Wii sports has been a great system seller, so it has a much bigger argument than any of those games. 



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Lafiel said:
what about Tekken 6 ? Tekken is a huge franchise as far as I know and should definately be able to do something (although I don't like the games .. I'm more of a VF and SC player)

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With Blu-Ray on the verge of winning the war, expect a price cut on the PS3 when MGS4 is launched. Why? Because Sony knows money will be coming in from Blu-Ray licensing. Also GTA4 will move more PS3's than 360, as will DMC4. Why? Well look at how many consoles Halo 3 moved...or didn't move.

The PS3 will outsell the 360 WW, but match the weekly 360 sales in NA after March. Also, don't underestimate the adoption rate of Blu-Ray, it still could spur more PS3 sales.





 

 

 

Im sorry but i dont think killzone will move hardware like people think it will. Not to say it doesnt look great but lets be honest, kz1 was dog shit. The colors are very bland and by the time this game launches people are going to be "fps'd" out. Well thats my .2 but i feel confident in my opinion. Also dmc4 is not going to move systems either. The dmc franchise was a million seller but it was never a game that was a huge system seller, maybe dmc1 because it was fresh but 4 looks like a high res dmc3, not to mention its also on the 360. Im not trying be a downer here but as a sony fan i am trying to realistic.



 

 

 

The only system sellers I see are:

PS3:
GT5, if it releases WW
MGS4

360:
Halo Wars

Wii:
SSBB
Mario Kart
Possibly Wii Fit

Multi:
GTA IV

Other than that, the rest are just good games that add to a library and ultimately more sales for that console. Few people will buy a PS3 for Killzone, but they might buy one because it has Killzone, LBP, and Haze. The same goes for the 360 and Alan Wake, Lost Odyssey, Fable 2, etc.

Nothing is a real system seller on the Wii because no one can keep them in stock anyway.




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PS3

* Killzone2 - No, not a likely system seller.
* GTA4 - Not a system seller for the PS3, 360 has exclusive content so will gain most new system purchases.
* Metal Gear Solid 4 - System seller.
* Final Fantasy XIII - 2009 most likely
* Singstar - Flopped in Europe no?
* Little Big Planet - Probably not a system seller due to the lack of similar games, also unproven as a franchise.
* Gran Tourismo 5 - HELL YES.
* Home - No.

360

* GTA4 with exclusive content - Yes
* HALO Wars - No, I don't think this will sell systems as everybody who would buy this will already have a 360 for H3
* Splinter Cell: Conviction - No.
* Too Human - No.
* Fable 2 - Quite possibly yes.
* Alan Wake - No.
* Left 4 Dead - No.

Wii

* Super Smash Bros - Yes.
* Mario Kart - Yes.
* WiiFit - Yes.

So according to my list its
PS3: 2
360: 2
Wii: 3