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Well, answer the damn question.

Yes, it is. 567 61.63%
 
No, it isn't. 292 31.74%
 
I like it when you talk rough, d21! 61 6.63%
 
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JGarret on 10 January 2012
d21lewis said:
slowmo said:
crissindahouse said:
evolution_1ne said:
crissindahouse said:
 

there is one exception, a company starting with something new and burining money the first years to win money 20 years later or so but that's not the plan of sony with the ps3

LO fucking L

that's EXACTLY what the hell the plan was with the PS3, look alittle deeper and you'll see it (should be obvious but whatever)

yeah that was the plan but they really burned too much money. i know that they knew they will lose a ton the first time. i don't think someone is denyin that sony knew they will lose money the first time.

What was the famous statement, something along the lines of "People will get a second job for a PS3".  The answer to that was no they will not.  Sony never planned to lose as much as they did on the PS3, they had a choice, let the Playstation brand take a massive hit by letting the console die slowly or take a financial hit and hope the long game negated some of the losses. 

Ultimately the entire PS3 strategy was terrible from the start.  I will conceed that had they sorted the bluray laser/drive production and Cell issues early enough then the strategy may have been ok but ultimately the product delivered was 6 months late to the party, too expensive in comparison to the competition, with nothing to demonstrate why to the majority of buyers. 

Sony are indeed loss leaders but they never expected any of the manufacturing troubles to cause so many problems and certainly didn't factor that the Wii would destroy them in sales for most of this gen.  All in all it was badly managed at launch and people paid for their mistakes with job losses. 

To balance the above, the work done between 2008 and 2011 to repair the launch damage by Sony has been excellent.  They have used smarter PR, improved the obvious deficiencies with the console, added lots of new features and of course invested in a large number of new IP's.  Ultimately though it doesn't matter how good the PS3 maybe doing now, it is never going to make up for the first few years and that's why a lot of people class it as not a success.

 

Isn't about time we had this thread for the 360, I expect a reverse of the above poll and a lot of interesting opinions on the subject.  The 360 looks like it is set to make money this gen but can profit wipe out the poor image the console had for years due to shoddy hardware.  I expect hypocrisy galore on all sides.  Only the Wii could be argued a success I feel given most metrics.


Make the 360 thread!  As for the Wii, I still think many would have reasons to call it a failure, too (Crazy people, of course).  I'd like to see people's opinions!

It´s decided then.

slowmo makes the 360 thread, and Rol makes the Wii one.



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slowmo on 10 January 2012
JGarret said:
d21lewis said:
slowmo said:
crissindahouse said:
evolution_1ne said:
crissindahouse said:
 

there is one exception, a company starting with something new and burining money the first years to win money 20 years later or so but that's not the plan of sony with the ps3

LO fucking L

that's EXACTLY what the hell the plan was with the PS3, look alittle deeper and you'll see it (should be obvious but whatever)

yeah that was the plan but they really burned too much money. i know that they knew they will lose a ton the first time. i don't think someone is denyin that sony knew they will lose money the first time.

What was the famous statement, something along the lines of "People will get a second job for a PS3".  The answer to that was no they will not.  Sony never planned to lose as much as they did on the PS3, they had a choice, let the Playstation brand take a massive hit by letting the console die slowly or take a financial hit and hope the long game negated some of the losses. 

Ultimately the entire PS3 strategy was terrible from the start.  I will conceed that had they sorted the bluray laser/drive production and Cell issues early enough then the strategy may have been ok but ultimately the product delivered was 6 months late to the party, too expensive in comparison to the competition, with nothing to demonstrate why to the majority of buyers. 

Sony are indeed loss leaders but they never expected any of the manufacturing troubles to cause so many problems and certainly didn't factor that the Wii would destroy them in sales for most of this gen.  All in all it was badly managed at launch and people paid for their mistakes with job losses. 

To balance the above, the work done between 2008 and 2011 to repair the launch damage by Sony has been excellent.  They have used smarter PR, improved the obvious deficiencies with the console, added lots of new features and of course invested in a large number of new IP's.  Ultimately though it doesn't matter how good the PS3 maybe doing now, it is never going to make up for the first few years and that's why a lot of people class it as not a success.

 

Isn't about time we had this thread for the 360, I expect a reverse of the above poll and a lot of interesting opinions on the subject.  The 360 looks like it is set to make money this gen but can profit wipe out the poor image the console had for years due to shoddy hardware.  I expect hypocrisy galore on all sides.  Only the Wii could be argued a success I feel given most metrics.


Make the 360 thread!  As for the Wii, I still think many would have reasons to call it a failure, too (Crazy people, of course).  I'd like to see people's opinions!

It´s decided then.

slowmo makes the 360 thread, and Rol makes the Wii one.


My threads die a death because I lack the natural wit and sense of good fun.  It would attract more fun replies if posted by Seece, Kow or perhaps even Selnor



d21lewis on 14 April 2012

Apparently the PS3 has cut the lead down to under 2 million and may not finish "last" this gen. Change anybody's mind?

And since nobody made the thread, I'll go ahead and make it.......



S.T.A.G.E. on 14 April 2012

Yes, it has profited. If it passes the 360 it will be one of the greatest comeback stories in gaming. Period.



Burning Typhoon on 14 April 2012

In a sense, it's like looking at a progress report. How many F's did the PS3 get. And, does one F mean the entire thing is a failure? To some people, yeah.

But, I don't think it's fair to ask the question only because of the 360... It's like.. if there were 59 million 360's out, and PS3 was in the exact same position it's in now, all of a sudden, the PS3 becomes even more of a success?

As far as I'm concerned, everything's split split now... Tekken's on 360, and, so is a lot of stuff. But, that really doesn't do anything for me, now does it? It's not like it isn't on PS3 anymore.. Like what originally happened with Ace Combat...

The only thing I care about is, how will this effect PS4...



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S.T.A.G.E. on 14 April 2012
Burning Typhoon said:
In a sense, it's like looking at a progress report. How many F's did the PS3 get. And, does one F mean the entire thing is a failure? To some people, yeah.

But, I don't think it's fair to ask the question only because of the 360... It's like.. if there were 59 million 360's out, and PS3 was in the exact same position it's in now, all of a sudden, the PS3 becomes even more of a success?

As far as I'm concerned, everything's split split now... Tekken's on 360, and, so is a lot of stuff. But, that really doesn't do anything for me, now does it? It's not like it isn't on PS3 anymore.. Like what originally happened with Ace Combat...

The only thing I care about is, how will this effect PS4...

Games-Thats kind of been laid out this gen. Sony has the highest chance of having the best new first party IP's next gen ( Speaking in percentage of sheer quality and quantity. Doesn't mean they will sell the best) from a first party perspective, then Nintendo and then Microsoft. Microsoft will showcase their new branches next gen.

HD console to launch first- I think Sony wont allow Microsoft to do this. They will launch around the same time which will force consumers to think hard about which console they want first.

Price- this will be a huge factor for the PS4 and 720. Nintendo never has a hard time making profit off of their consoles.

Peripherals? How will Sony showcase the Move next gen? How will Microsoft showcase Kinect next gen? The Wii U...well we have an idea and it will include lots of variety, but will be less of a household gaming console. I dont expect it to sell as well as the Wii.

(This is my take from what we know now. E3 will spell the future more accurately.)



freebs2 on 14 April 2012

Is better than Ps2 in terms of sales? No
Is better than Ps2 in terms of quality? (imo) No
=> (imo) Not a success.



MARCUSDJACKSON on 14 April 2012

Is the PS3 a success? yes
Did it succeed financially? yes
Commercially? yes
Did it live up to Sony's expectations? yes
DId it provide the type of games that justified its existence? yes
Is the PS3 the underdog console that overcame all odds to become a hit or is the PS3 the console that was groomed for to be king, only to be beaten by its two rivals? No

Consider the PS3's competition. Consider the PS3's legacy. Consider the PS3's obstacles. Consider the PS3's contributions. Consider all of this and tell me if Sony and the gaming world are better off with the PS3 on the market.

well when you put it like that. not one of these 7th gen. failures of consoles should have been made.



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DepthAlly on 14 April 2012

Financially? Not exactly, but it got Tales of Graces f so yes it is.



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d21lewis on 14 April 2012
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Is the PS3 a success? yes
Did it succeed financially? yes
Commercially? yes
Did it live up to Sony's expectations? yes
DId it provide the type of games that justified its existence? yes
Is the PS3 the underdog console that overcame all odds to become a hit or is the PS3 the console that was groomed for to be king, only to be beaten by its two rivals? No

Consider the PS3's competition. Consider the PS3's legacy. Consider the PS3's obstacles. Consider the PS3's contributions. Consider all of this and tell me if Sony and the gaming world are better off with the PS3 on the market.

well when you put it like that. not one of these 7th gen. failures of consoles should have been made.

You can do bad in a couple and still be a success if you do well where it really counts!  Those where just rhetorical questions for people to consider.  I'm sure there were other questions like "Did the PS3 help you get laid" or something.  Take what's important to you--games, graphics, profit, sales, sexification, whatever--and decide if the PS3 succeeded in your eyes.

My point of view:  It lost money and it didn't sell as well as expected but it bounced back strong, provided some great games, and some impressive features.  Was it an overall success or a failure?  Well......I did vote.