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Forums - Sales Discussion - VgChartz is mistaken. In Spain: Wii>PS3 [thread in Spanish]

carlos710 on 08 January 2008
Played_Out said:
Yuk04 said:
That makes more sense, I know that Spain is the land of the raising Sony but, it is as well a land of not a lot of young people with high incomes.

The Wii it is still considered as an affordable console, contrary to the PS3 image.

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Fun anecdote:

i went back to Spain for xmas and went to a game shop to buy some games for my family. The clerk shop said something totally unexpected about the 360. We all know that Spain is Sony land and the Wii is selling really well.

Apparently, there's an underground 360 community growing, which of course will not overtake on the sales of this year but, she mention that the core gamers were buying the 360 instead of the PS3 and lots of games with it (the always important attach rate)

Useless to say that this is just an anecdote from a shop on a little city but, to think that a clerk from Game (we all know how they are) would actually say that the 360 was starting to sell to a core audience very loyal in a small Spanish city is really funny.

It felt like I was witnessing the little village from Asterix, resisting against the Sony empire

That would be ironic given that Asterix is a parable about resistance to American cultural imperialism.

Regarding the figures: I don't speak Spanish and had to auto translate, but the figures seem rather confusing as one set of data (AC Nielsen's percentages) is being applied to another (VGChartz number of units sold).

It would also still seem to suggest that the PS3 has been outselling the Wii on a weekly basis, as it is comparing 12 months of Wii sales versus 9 months of PS3 sales (I think). But then it says something about Wii outselling the 360 & PS3 combined in the latter half of the year. Clarification?

Is not that hard. According to VGchartz the ps3 has sold more LTD in spain even with a late launch.

According to that source, the Wii is the market leader in next-gen consoles over the ps3/360, and the Wii has a marketshare of 44% in spain. They do not give exact numbers, they only say Wii has been the leader since April 1 and was the best selling console in 2007.

VGChartz: Ps3 > Wii LTD

Ac nielsen: Wii > Ps3 LTD

The comparision of AC Nielsen's percentage and VGChartz numbers was done by the thread starter and not by the quoted source. The quoted source also don't say anything about the Wii outselling the ps3+360 combined, it's just a guess of the thread starter.



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Butter on 08 January 2008
Played_Out said:
Yuk04 said:
That makes more sense, I know that Spain is the land of the raising Sony but, it is as well a land of not a lot of young people with high incomes.

The Wii it is still considered as an affordable console, contrary to the PS3 image.

---------------------


Fun anecdote:

i went back to Spain for xmas and went to a game shop to buy some games for my family. The clerk shop said something totally unexpected about the 360. We all know that Spain is Sony land and the Wii is selling really well.

Apparently, there's an underground 360 community growing, which of course will not overtake on the sales of this year but, she mention that the core gamers were buying the 360 instead of the PS3 and lots of games with it (the always important attach rate)

Useless to say that this is just an anecdote from a shop on a little city but, to think that a clerk from Game (we all know how they are) would actually say that the 360 was starting to sell to a core audience very loyal in a small Spanish city is really funny.

It felt like I was witnessing the little village from Asterix, resisting against the Sony empire

That would be ironic given that Asterix is a parable about resistance to American cultural imperialism.

Regarding the figures: I don't speak Spanish and had to auto translate, but the figures seem rather confusing as one set of data (AC Nielsen's percentages) is being applied to another (VGChartz number of units sold).

It would also still seem to suggest that the PS3 has been outselling the Wii on a weekly basis, as it is comparing 12 months of Wii sales versus 9 months of PS3 sales (I think). But then it says something about Wii outselling the 360 & PS3 combined in the latter half of the year. Clarification?


 Yes...

<<<Wii se convirtió en líder del segmento de consolas de sobremesa de nueva generación sólo 22 semanas después de su lanzamiento (desde el 1 de abril) y es la consola más vendida en 2007. Hoy, Wii suma el 44% del mercado de consolas de sobremesa de nueva generación.>>>

1 April - Wii>360>PS3 (total sales in Spain)

 

 With this, the Wii can be deduced less that tapeworm of 50% of the market. And 6 months later (9 September) , it continues having 44% of the total.

 

That means that Wii = PS3+360



NJ5 on 08 January 2008
Butter said:
 

Yes...

<<<Wii se convirtió en líder del segmento de consolas de sobremesa de nueva generación sólo 22 semanas después de su lanzamiento (desde el 1 de abril) y es la consola más vendida en 2007. Hoy, Wii suma el 44% del mercado de consolas de sobremesa de nueva generación.>>>

1 April - Wii>360>PS3 (total sales in Spain)

 

With this, the Wii can be deduced less that tapeworm of 50% of the market. And 6 months later (9 September) , it continues having 44% of the total.

 

That means that Wii = PS3+360


I don't see it saying "Wii>PS3+360" anywhere in the part you quoted.

 



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Butter on 08 January 2008
NJ5 said:
Butter said:
 

Yes...

<<<Wii se convirtió en líder del segmento de consolas de sobremesa de nueva generación sólo 22 semanas después de su lanzamiento (desde el 1 de abril) y es la consola más vendida en 2007. Hoy, Wii suma el 44% del mercado de consolas de sobremesa de nueva generación.>>>

1 April - Wii>360>PS3 (total sales in Spain)

 

With this, the Wii can be deduced less that tapeworm of 50% of the market. And 6 months later (9 September) , it continues having 44% of the total.

 

That means that Wii = PS3+360


I don't see it saying "Wii>PS3+360" anywhere in the part you quoted.

 

   It is a mathematical question. If in April, the Wii tapeworm numbers near 50%, and in September, also has near 50%, is that during 6 months, it means that sells like the other two meetings.

 



carlos710 on 08 January 2008

Lol, i just read that article again. Seems like they are talking about sales up to september 07

So vgchartz may be right once again



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carlos710 on 08 January 2008
ioi said:
Ah, ok my misunderstanding about the source of the analysis.

The issues I still have are "Wii is best seller of 2007" vs sales in 2007 upto Sept 9th - where is the 9th from? Presumably from the date of the article 12/9/07 - so we are not talking about 2007 as a whole, just up to that point?

Just want to be clear exactly what is being compared here, LTD or sales in 2007, sales Jan-Sep or what?

 Sales up to September 12, and nothing beyond that.

9 is the month (september)

 

 

 



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Butter on 08 January 2008
ioi said:
Ah, ok my misunderstanding about the source of the analysis.

The issues I still have are "Wii is best seller of 2007" vs sales in 2007 upto Sept 9th - where is the 9th from? Presumably from the date of the article 12/9/07 - so we are not talking about 2007 as a whole, just up to that point?

Just want to be clear exactly what is being compared here, LTD or sales in 2007, sales Jan-Sep or what?

I put data of 9Sept, because it is the near date but that there is in VgChartz. (http://vgchartz.com/ehweekly.php?date=39334)

I make two comparisons, hard TOTAL sold, and the most sold in 2007.

In the two situations, VgChartz is mistaken of enough



DKII on 08 January 2008

I think the point is the article says Wii sold more from Jan 1 2007 to at most Sept 12 2007 (article date), where VGChartz says like 240k PS3's and 190k Wii's in that time.

The problem is we don't really know what date this Nielsen date runs through, just the date of the article.



Ajax on 08 January 2008

i just saw ine others charts that in the last week of 2007
the ps3 outsold the 360 10:1 in spain
lol



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Butter on 08 January 2008
DKII said:
I think the point is the article says Wii sold more from Jan 1 2007 to at most Sept 12 2007 (article date), where VGChartz says like 240k PS3's and 190k Wii's in that time.

The problem is we don't really know what date this Nielsen date runs through, just the date of the article.

http://www.fantasymundo.com/noticias/5011/nintendo_ds_wii_lideres_ventas"> http://www.fantasymundo.com/noticias/5011/nintendo_ds_wii_lideres_ventas

 http://es.biz.yahoo.com/12092007/4/economia-empresas-consolas-nintendo-wii-nintendo-ds-lideran-mercado-espana.html

<<<<"Hoy, Wii suma el 44% del mercado de consolas de sobremesa de nueva generación.>>>>

 

It is understood that it is spoken of day 12/9/07.

And according to that I articulate, every week the Wii sells but that the PS3 (watching 44%), and VgChartz puts it underneath.