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Seece said:
Turkish said:
I'm sure Sony will overcome this, they're the leader in electronics, generations of entertainment and consoles only start when Sony says so: PS2, dvd, blu ray, PS3, walkman etc.


Your posts are so embarssing, I swear you're a parody

Dude, how can you naysay the PS2 and the fucking Walkman?

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I really am worrying for Sony, the used to be industry leaders in so many things, but then around the time of the PS3 it all started to fall apart. They managed to turn things around with the PS3 since its launch, but other things haven't fared so well. Their movies business has been okay, but other electronics aren't doing especially good, and Sony is fading in all those areas as Samsung replaces them

Their attempts to turn this around have seemingly failed with the Sony Tablet S not really taking off, so the only potential bright spot would be if they could get their new Sony android phones right (once the take over is through), but I feel that they are too late to the party

As for the direct gaming side, I don't think Sony is going to fall apart to such an extent that they stop making consoles, as they could just become a service provider if the hardware continues to struggle

As a Sony fan, I am worried, but I think PlayStation will be alright



Salnax said:
You know what this means: Nintendo is domed!

*reggieshrugs*



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Munkeh111 said:
I really am worrying for Sony, the used to be industry leaders in so many things, but then around the time of the PS3 it all started to fall apart. They managed to turn things around with the PS3 since its launch, but other things haven't fared so well. Their movies business has been okay, but other electronics aren't doing especially good, and Sony is fading in all those areas as Samsung replaces them

Their attempts to turn this around have seemingly failed with the Sony Tablet S not really taking off, so the only potential bright spot would be if they could get their new Sony android phones right (once the take over is through), but I feel that they are too late to the party

As for the direct gaming side, I don't think Sony is going to fall apart to such an extent that they stop making consoles, as they could just become a service provider if the hardware continues to struggle

As a Sony fan, I am worried, but I think PlayStation will be alright

I don't know how well Sony will do in the future, it's just too .. strange to believe they could possibly fall. These things can be a long time coming and still shock though.

One things for sure, Stringer needs to go, the man is a walking disaster. Sony is a badly run business, put aside all the losses ect, one of the main reasons I find them poorly run is how weak the synergy is within the company, and how it seems some divisions don't even communicate with others.

It might be best for Sony to really split up their divisions so if the worst does come, certain divisions can be salvagable and they can carry on (I don't know how that would work exactly) I do believe in terms of gaming though they could turn it around. Getting back on top wouldn't be awfully difficult for them, but learning how to make a profitable business .. well, they need help in that regard, MS is looking like it'll dominate Xmas sales with the 360, with no cut in 3 years, yet it baffles me why Sony has cut the price of the PS3 (now $150 since in the last 2 years) (when they only just became profitable on the PS3) when they're losing money hand over fist.



 

What kind of cash reserves is Sony sitting on? The biggest reason Nintendo can survive massive losses (and ignore low stock prices for a while) is because their cash reserves can cover their expenses for years. Does Sony have anything like that?



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Worst comes to worst, someone will probably buy them out. It seems the most problems seem to be in management. Maybe when Kaz Hirai takes over, things will shape up.

I know I'm going to get harped on for saying something positive about Sony in this thread, but Kaz did do alot in saving the PS brand from being abandoned by all third parties, being too difficult for anyone to program, or leaving the gaming industry. He also was able to get the production price of the PS3 down alot.

I do think kicking Stringer out is the first priority right now.



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Seece said:
Munkeh111 said:
I really am worrying for Sony, the used to be industry leaders in so many things, but then around the time of the PS3 it all started to fall apart. They managed to turn things around with the PS3 since its launch, but other things haven't fared so well. Their movies business has been okay, but other electronics aren't doing especially good, and Sony is fading in all those areas as Samsung replaces them

Their attempts to turn this around have seemingly failed with the Sony Tablet S not really taking off, so the only potential bright spot would be if they could get their new Sony android phones right (once the take over is through), but I feel that they are too late to the party

As for the direct gaming side, I don't think Sony is going to fall apart to such an extent that they stop making consoles, as they could just become a service provider if the hardware continues to struggle

As a Sony fan, I am worried, but I think PlayStation will be alright

I don't know how well Sony will do in the future, it's just too .. strange to believe they could possibly fall. These things can be a long time coming and still shock though.

One things for sure, Stringer needs to go, the man is a walking disaster. Sony is a badly run business, put aside all the losses ect, one of the main reasons I find them poorly run is how weak the synergy is within the company, and how it seems some divisions don't even communicate with others.

It might be best for Sony to really split up their divisions so if the worst does come, certain divisions can be salvagable and they can carry on (I don't know how that would work exactly) I do believe in terms of gaming though they could turn it around. Getting back on top wouldn't be awfully difficult for them, but learning how to make a profitable business .. well, they need help in that regard, MS is looking like it'll dominate Xmas sales with the 360, with no cut in 3 years, yet it baffles me why Sony has cut the price of the PS3 (now $150 since in the last 2 years) (when they only just became profitable on the PS3) when they're losing money hand over fist.


didn't the 360 elite get a price cut in 2009 when ps3 slim was launched?

and you might aswell say that the slim 360+Kinect launch was OVERLY good enough to be a price cut substitute

i mean if you look back the sales rose as if the 360 did get a price cut in 2010

when 360 got it's last $50 price cut on the arcade model, how big was it's boost?

was it massive or was it more like when wii and ps3 got their $50 price cut's?

just curious..



enditall727 said:
Seece said:
Munkeh111 said:
I really am worrying for Sony, the used to be industry leaders in so many things, but then around the time of the PS3 it all started to fall apart. They managed to turn things around with the PS3 since its launch, but other things haven't fared so well. Their movies business has been okay, but other electronics aren't doing especially good, and Sony is fading in all those areas as Samsung replaces them

Their attempts to turn this around have seemingly failed with the Sony Tablet S not really taking off, so the only potential bright spot would be if they could get their new Sony android phones right (once the take over is through), but I feel that they are too late to the party

As for the direct gaming side, I don't think Sony is going to fall apart to such an extent that they stop making consoles, as they could just become a service provider if the hardware continues to struggle

As a Sony fan, I am worried, but I think PlayStation will be alright

I don't know how well Sony will do in the future, it's just too .. strange to believe they could possibly fall. These things can be a long time coming and still shock though.

One things for sure, Stringer needs to go, the man is a walking disaster. Sony is a badly run business, put aside all the losses ect, one of the main reasons I find them poorly run is how weak the synergy is within the company, and how it seems some divisions don't even communicate with others.

It might be best for Sony to really split up their divisions so if the worst does come, certain divisions can be salvagable and they can carry on (I don't know how that would work exactly) I do believe in terms of gaming though they could turn it around. Getting back on top wouldn't be awfully difficult for them, but learning how to make a profitable business .. well, they need help in that regard, MS is looking like it'll dominate Xmas sales with the 360, with no cut in 3 years, yet it baffles me why Sony has cut the price of the PS3 (now $150 since in the last 2 years) (when they only just became profitable on the PS3) when they're losing money hand over fist.


didn't the 360 elite get a price cut in 2009 when ps3 slim was launched?

and you might aswell say that the slim 360+Kinect launch was OVERLY good enough to be a price cut substitute

i mean if you look back the sales rose as if the 360 did get a price cut in 2010

when 360 got it's last $50 price cut on the arcade model, how big was it's boost?

was it massive or was it more like when wii and ps3 got their $50 price cut's?

just curious..

What they did is Drop the middle Pro 360 (60GB one I believe) and basically put the Elite in it's place.



If Sony does go under I wonder if someone will end up picking up the PlayStation line. It's still a popular brand name with some value.

Apple PlayStation.



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JOKA_ said:
If Sony does go under I wonder if someone will end up picking up the PlayStation line. It's still a popular brand name with some value.

Apple PlayStation.

Microsoft would, not entirely sure they would do anything with it though. No way would the risk letting Apple get the PS name and franchises.