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morenoingrato said:
I'm glad the Lion King did well, actually, it was 2011's best animated movie

That just goes to show how bad this year is for animated movies, when the best so far was originally released in 1994.



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Forecast: Odds Favor 'Moneyball'

Four new releases attempt to dethrone The Lion King (in 3D), though Moneyball looks like the only one with a legitimate chance. The Brad Pitt baseball movie, based on Michael Lewis's bestselling book of the same name, steps up to the plate on around 3,800 screens at 2,993 locations. Other new movies in the hunt include Taylor Lautnerthriller Abduction (3,800 screens at 3,118 theaters),Dolphin Tale (over 5,000 screens at 3,507 theaters, with 2,700 of those theaters playing the movie in 3D) and Killer Elite (3,600 screens at 2,986 locations). 

Moneyball's marketing has put star Brad Pitt front-and-center in its trailers, commercials and posters, and for good reason. Since 1999's Fight Club, nearly all of Pitt's live-action wide releases have opened to at least $20 million, with the exception of Babel (not exactly a mainstream movie) and 2008's Burn After Reading($19.1 million). The latter movie's debut was just a little bit lower than the best opening ever for a baseball movie, which belongs to the 2006 comedy The Benchwarmers($19.7 million). The lack of interest in baseball movies helps explain why distributor Sony/Columbia is targeting a high-teen millions start, though Pitt's star status should help propel the movie at least slightly above that expectation.

Abduction also has a fairly big star attached, albeit one without much of a proven track record. The movie marks Taylor Lautner's first major role outside of the Twilightseries, and his fellow Twilight stars haven't had a ton of luck so far: Kristen Stewart has been in a few independent movies along with the disappointing 2009 comedyAdventureland ($16 million), while Robert Pattinsonmissed with Remember Me ($19.1 million) before finding a decent audience in Water for Elephants ($58.7 million). With its on-the-run thriller aspects, Abductioncalls to mind September 2008's Eagle Eye, which opened to a huge $29.2 million on its way to over $101 million. At that time, though, Shia LaBeouf had more crossover appeal than Lautner, and the movie promised unique thrills as opposed to Abduction's fairly generic-looking ones.Abduction is trying to draw men and women, but it doesn't look action-packed enough for men nor romantic enough for women.

Dolphin Tale probably has the toughest challenge this weekend, as it has to find a way to wrestle some family audiences away from The Lion King. It's been positioned as an inspirational true story, with trailers and commercials going so far as to point out that it's from the studio and producers of The Blind Side. That movie was probably more universally appealing, though, and didn't have to worry about the uncertainty surrounding 3D. WhileThe Lion King proved that there is definitely life left in the format, distributor Warner Bros. appears to recognize that family audiences have been gravitating away from 3D, and are therefore hedging their bets by emphasizing that Dolphin Tale is also playing in 2D. 

Killer Elite is also based on a true story, and is a somewhat safe debut movie for distributor Open Road Films, considering star Jason Statham's fairly consistent track record. Outside of The Expendables (which was an ensemble), his recent openings have generally ranged from $9 to $13 million, with a few random outliers (Crank: High Voltage and The Bank Job) dragging down the average. Killer Elite's marketing does give off a B-movie, straight-to-video feel, which should be offset to a degree by the inclusion of Robert DeNiro and Clive Owen. Ultimately, a lower-end Statham debut seems reasonable.

In Box Office Mojo's "when will you see it" reader polling, Moneyball led with over 20 percent of users opting to see it on opening weekend. That's about even with last September's Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps but way behind The Social Network (40 percent), which was inflated due to abnormal buzz within the online community.

Killer Elite scored over 13 percent for opening weekend, which is ahead of Statham's The Mechanic (11 percent) and Death Race (12.5 percent) but off from Transporter 3 (15.5 percent). Abduction tallied a 12 percent opening weekend figure, which is much worse than nearly all comparable on-the-run thrillers including Eagle Eye(40 percent) and I Am Number Four (24 percent). As is to be expected, Dolphin Tale finished in last with under 6 percent, which is less than The Blind Side (10.5 percent) but better than Hotel for Dogs (3.2 percent).

Weekend Forecast (Sept. 23-25)
1. Moneyball - $23 million
2. The Lion King - $17 million
3. Dolphin Tale - $13.5 million
4. Abduction - $12.5 million
5. Contagion - $8.8 million
6. Killer Elite - $8.7 million

Bar for Success
With a superstar like Brad Pitt and a ubiquitous marketing campaign, Moneyball needs to at least break $20 million in its opening weekend. North of $15 million is a good target for Abduction, while Dolphin Tale and Killer Elitejust need to get in to the double-digits to get a pass.



Friday Estimates

Rank*TitleFriday
9/23

(Estimates)
Saturday
9/24
Sunday
9/25
Monday
9/26
1 MONEYBALL
Sony / Columbia

2,993
$6,750,000

-- / $2,255
$6,750,000 / 1

N/A

N/A

N/A
2 THE LION KING (IN 3D)
Buena Vista

2,330
$6,050,000

+168.9% / $2,597
$45,596,000 / 8

N/A

N/A

N/A
3 DOLPHIN TALE
Warner Bros.

3,507
$5,110,000

-- / $1,457
$5,110,000 / 1

N/A

N/A

N/A
4 ABDUCTION
Lionsgate

3,118
$3,800,000

-- / $1,219
$3,800,000 / 1

N/A

N/A

N/A
5 KILLER ELITE
Open Road Films

2,986
$3,500,000

-- / $1,172
$3,500,000 / 1

N/A

N/A

N/A
6 CONTAGION
Warner Bros.

3,136
$2,625,000

+161.7% / $837
$51,182,000 / 15

N/A

N/A

N/A
7 DRIVE (2011)
FilmDistrict

2,904
$1,882,000

+95.1% / $648
$17,535,000 / 8

N/A

N/A

N/A
8 THE HELP
Buena Vista

2,695
$1,310,000

+95.4% / $486
$151,354,000 / 45

N/A

N/A

N/A
9 STRAW DOGS (2011)
Sony / Screen Gems

2,408
$685,000

+95.6% / $284
$7,469,000 / 8

N/A

N/A

N/A
10 I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE DOES IT
Weinstein Company

2,490
$677,000

+84.9% / $272
$6,643,000 / 8

N/A

N/A

N/A


Moneyball might not do $20m. It has very good reviews so it might have better than average saturday.
Lion King did very well. >17m for the weekend!



Weekend Estimates

TW LW Title (click to view) Studio Weekend Gross % Change Theater Count / Change Average Total Gross Budget* Week #
1 1 The Lion King (in 3D) BV $22,130,000 -26.6% 2,330 - $9,498 $61,676,000 - 2
2 N Moneyball Sony $20,600,000 - 2,993 - $6,883 $20,600,000 $50 1
3 N Dolphin Tale WB $20,260,000 - 3,507 - $5,777 $20,260,000 $37 1
4 N Abduction LGF $11,200,000 - 3,118 - $3,592 $11,200,000 $35 1
5 N Killer Elite ORF $9,500,000 - 2,986 - $3,182 $9,500,000 $70 1
6 2 Contagion WB $8,565,000 -41.1% 3,136 -86 $2,731 $57,122,000 $60 3
7 3 Drive (2011) FD $5,771,000 -49.1% 2,904 +18 $1,987 $21,425,000 $15 2
8 4 The Help BV $4,400,000 -32.4% 2,695 -319 $1,633 $154,444,000 $25 7
9 5 Straw Dogs (2011) SGem $2,100,000 -59.0% 2,408 - $872 $8,884,000 $25 2
10 6 I Don't Know How She Does It Wein. $2,053,000 -53.4% 2,490 +14 $824 $8,019,000 $24 2


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Lion King did very well! It will reach $100m!!!
Moneyball and Dolphin Tale did well.



Weekend Report: 'Lion' Remains 'King,' 'Moneyball,' 'Dolphin Tale' Go Extra Innings

Four newcomers, two of which opened to over $20 million, weren't quite strong enough to unseat The Lion King (in 3D), which held the top spot for the second weekend in a row. Moneyball and Dolphin Tale had strong starts and are currently neck-and-neck for second place, while Abduction and Killer Elite both underperformed. Overall, the weekend box office tallied at least $116 million, which makes it the highest-grossing September weekend ever.

The Lion King was off a light 27 percent to $22.1 million, bringing the re-release's 10-day total to $61.7 million. When added to previous Lion King grosses, the movie has now made a whopping $390.2 million, which is good for 12th place on the all-time domestic chart. The movie is poised to easily top $400 million and move in to the all-time Top 10, but that's probably going to require extending the run past the two-week engagement that was initially planned.

After winning on Friday, Moneyball had to settle for second place for the weekend with an estimated $20.6 million from 2,993 locations. It topped The Benchwarmers ($19.7 million) for best start ever for a baseball movie, and it also ranked fifth all-time among sports dramas. While the opening is on the low end for a Brad Pitt movie, it was slightly above September 2008's Burn After Reading ($19.1 million). Finally, the movie was up a tad from Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps ($19 million) but down from The Social Network ($22.45 million). Sony/Columbia is reporting that 51 percent of the audience was male and 64 percent were over the age of 35, and it received an "A" CinemaScore.

Dolphin Tale wasn't too far behind with an estimated $20.26 million, and there's a chance it finishes ahead of Moneyball when actual grosses are reported on Monday afternoon. The debut is way up from April's Soul Surfer and also an improvement on Hotel for Dogs ($17 million). In fact, if estimates hold it will top Eight Below ($20.19 million) for the best opening ever for a live-action animal-centric family movie. Distributor Warner Bros. is reporting that the audience was 66 percent female and 51 percent under the age of 25, and that crowd awarded the movie a rare "A+" CinemaScore. An estimated 50 percent of the grosses came from 3D presentations at around 2,700 locations.

It appears like Taylor Lautner is the latest Twilight star to struggle outside of the franchise: Abduction opened to a weak estimated $11.2 million from 3,118 locations. That's less than half of Eagle Eye's $29.2 million opening from three years ago, and also off from fellow Twilight star Robert Pattinson's Water for Elephants ($16.8 million). The audience breakdown was 68 percent female and 56 percent under the age of 25, and the movie received a "B-" CinemaScore (though that improves to an "A-" rating among females under 18).

Killer Elite wound up in last place among the newcomers with an estimated $9.5 million. That's on the low end for recent Jason Statham movies, with The Mechanic ($11.4 million), Transporter 3 ($12.1 million) and Death Race ($12.6 million) all coming in ahead. Demographic information is not available, but the movie did earn a "B" CinemaScore.

Contagion dipped 41 percent to an estimated $8.6 million, bringing its 17-day total to $57.1 million.

Drive declined 49 percent to $5.8 million, which is a reasonable hold considering the movie's genre and "C-" CinemaScore. Through 10 days, the Ryan Gosling thriller has earned $21.4 million.

The Help extended its impressive run by easing 32 percent to an estimated $4.4 million. It has now earned a huge $154.4 million.

Straw Dogs and I Don't Know How She Does It both tumbled in their second frame. Straw Dogs was off 59 percent to $2.1 million for a weak 10-day total of $8.9 million, while I Don't Know How She Does It fell 53 percent to $2.05 million for a total just north of $8 million.



sapphi_snake said:
morenoingrato said:
I'm glad the Lion King did well, actually, it was 2011's best animated movie

That just goes to show how bad this year is for animated movies, when the best so far was originally released in 1994.

Yeah, ashame really, even if TLK is outstanding, it should not be this year's best movie :/



morenoingrato said:
sapphi_snake said:
morenoingrato said:
I'm glad the Lion King did well, actually, it was 2011's best animated movie

That just goes to show how bad this year is for animated movies, when the best so far was originally released in 1994.

Yeah, ashame really, even if TLK is outstanding, it should not be this year's best movie :/

Well, there's still The Adventures of Tin Tin, which might save the year.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

The Lion King(3D) is the most impressive movie boxoffice-wise so far this year.