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brendude13 said:
Squall_Leonhart said:
brendude13 said:
Squall_Leonhart said:
It needs a Final Fantasy game that isn't linear and actually allows you to control all the damn characters in the battles!! Something along the lines of X would be nice

@ Bolded

Contradiction there ;)


You make a point, the game was linear to a point but there was still many choices in the game and there was actually the feeling of a full world to explore rather than only getting limited freedom on Gran Pulse... I did like XIII but i would prefer at least back to XII and X days, ideally VII, VIII and IX level of freedom with Airships and many side quests but who are we kidding, its SE... they clearly do not listen to their fans lol ;)

Well VII, XIII and VIII are my favourite (in that order). I have also played FFX, but I haven't completed it. I still found it far more restrictive and slow paced than FFXIII, I haven't got the airship yet (I believe I am literally a boss battle away from getting it). How much freedom does it actually gives you?


*slight spoiler but you basically asked for it :)* well i would say FFX opens up right around the time you beat yunalesca

basically each pilgrimage the summoner's go on will end with them being killed

yunalesca obtains what can beat sin (the final aeon) but that method would require 1 of the guardians to BECOME the final aeon and beating sin of course would require you to summon the final aeon which will destroy sin AND the person who summoned it (which is what happened to every other summoner who beat sin).

here is the catch

there is something that control's sin and it has no real conscience. the only thing that play's back in it's memory is "DESTROY EVERYTHING!"(i will not say it's name, how it was created OR even where it came from).every time sin is destroyed, the thing that controlled sin will basically get let loose and it will try to find another powerful source(which of course would be the final aeon) and complete it's mission that keep's playing back over and over in it's mind basically creating another sin.

so basically yunalesca's method is pointless and give's the people of spira a false "hope"

by now you should have figured out that yevon is basically a joke and revolve's around this "false hope"

so of course you disagree and fight her. when you beat her you basically destroy that method of ever beating sin again and now that you have reached zanarkand you now have no real thing's that you are "supposed" to do. you are free to do whatever

and just for a head's up you should look up the coordinate's for the "Omega Ruins" on here

i found it on my own like the 2nd time i played ff10 but just saying :)



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chocoloco said:
enditall727 said:
chocoloco said:
enditall727 said:
non-gravity said:
Hell I could ask for more Simulation and Strategy game on PC, like you guys here are asking for JRPGs, but the thing is their genres have just gone downhill and less of them are being made.


no this is not true

their is no big presence of jrpg's on ps3 because the jrpg dev's jumped to the handheld's when this gen began

Of course they did because the only big market for JRPGs is Japan itself and Japan buys mostly portables now. They go were the profit is.

their is profit to be made on ps3 aswell

i think Tale's Of Xillia's lifetime number's will determine if there is some profit to be made on home console's still(not including Final Fantasy 13)

the wii has proven that it is not the place Tales Of Graces, Last Story adn the others

the 360 with Tales OF Vesperia, Star Ocean, Lost Odyssey and the others

now ps3 never really got the chance to get a full fledge big name jrpg to release for it to see what number's it can do(im not counting Final Fantasy 13)

Xillia will be the 1st. now let's see how much it sells on ps3 in JP compared to what Vesperia and Graces sold on 360 and wii lifetime

Yes, there is a small market for JRPGs on consoles. These companies are not ignorant though and they know that JRPGS are fading in the west. The lack of JRPGs just reflects the lack of major interest for the genre by the western audience. Unfortunantly, a minority of gamers are put off by this and all there is to do  is to stick to handhelds. Minorities hardly ever get what they want it, life has usually  been about appealing to the opinion of the majority.

jRPG have always been a small market, its not smaller today than it was before, its not fading. Its just that the development cost on current hardware makes it hard to be profitable, whether we are talking about the west or japan doesnt matter. Hence the reason to move jRPG development to handheld.



enditall727 said:


*slight spoiler but you basically asked for it :)* well i would say FFX opens up right around the time you beat yunalesca

basically each pilgrimage the summoner's go on will end with them being killed

yunalesca obtains what can beat sin (the final aeon) but that method would require 1 of the guardians to BECOME the final aeon and beating sin of course would require you to summon the final aeon which will destroy sin AND the person who summoned it (which is what happened to every other summoner who beat sin).

here is the catch

there is something that control's sin and it has no real conscience. the only thing that play's back in it's memory is "DESTROY EVERYTHING!"(i will not say it's name, how it was created OR even where it came from).every time sin is destroyed, the thing that controlled sin will basically get let loose and it will try to find another powerful source(which of course would be the final aeon) and complete it's mission that keep's playing back over and over in it's mind basically creating another sin.

so basically yunalesca's method is pointless and give's the people of spira a false "hope"

by now you should have figured out that yevon is basically a joke and revolve's around this "false hope"

so of course you disagree and fight her. when you beat her you basically destroy that method of ever beating sin again and now that you have reached zanarkand you now have no real thing's that you are "supposed" to do. you are free to do whatever

and just for a head's up you should look up the coordinate's for the "Omega Ruins" on here

i found it on my own like the 2nd time i played ff10 but just saying :)

Yes, Yunalesca, I keep dying on her 3rd form :P

And I don't know why you are talking about the story, but you are telling me things I didn't know, so thanks.

I'm guessing Jecht offered himself as the final aeon which is why he became sin, I need to get the game completed before summer is over, it might have a chance of knocking another FF game out of the top 3. I just think that when the story is over and wrapped up, the game will seem so much better looking back at it and I might even buy FFX-2.



Talk about FF X on your walls this thread isnt the place



Xxain said:
Talk about FF X on your walls this thread isnt the place

I'm talking with the creator of the thread :P

Nothing wrong with a slightly off topic conversation, as long as we keep it short.

I think we're done now anyway.



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brendude13 said:
Xxain said:
Talk about FF X on your walls this thread isnt the place

I'm talking with the creator of the thread :P

Nothing wrong with a slightly off topic conversation, as long as we keep it short.

I think we're done now anyway.



Fine ill get thread creator banned

That was a Joke btw



Icyedge said:
chocoloco said:
enditall727 said:
chocoloco said:
enditall727 said:
non-gravity said:
Hell I could ask for more Simulation and Strategy game on PC, like you guys here are asking for JRPGs, but the thing is their genres have just gone downhill and less of them are being made.


no this is not true

their is no big presence of jrpg's on ps3 because the jrpg dev's jumped to the handheld's when this gen began

Of course they did because the only big market for JRPGs is Japan itself and Japan buys mostly portables now. They go were the profit is.

their is profit to be made on ps3 aswell

i think Tale's Of Xillia's lifetime number's will determine if there is some profit to be made on home console's still(not including Final Fantasy 13)

the wii has proven that it is not the place Tales Of Graces, Last Story adn the others

the 360 with Tales OF Vesperia, Star Ocean, Lost Odyssey and the others

now ps3 never really got the chance to get a full fledge big name jrpg to release for it to see what number's it can do(im not counting Final Fantasy 13)

Xillia will be the 1st. now let's see how much it sells on ps3 in JP compared to what Vesperia and Graces sold on 360 and wii lifetime

Yes, there is a small market for JRPGs on consoles. These companies are not ignorant though and they know that JRPGS are fading in the west. The lack of JRPGs just reflects the lack of major interest for the genre by the western audience. Unfortunantly, a minority of gamers are put off by this and all there is to do  is to stick to handhelds. Minorities hardly ever get what they want it, life has usually  been about appealing to the opinion of the majority.

jRPG have always been a small market, its not smaller today than it was before, its not fading. Its just that the development cost on current hardware makes it hard to be profitable, whether we are talking about the west or japan doesnt matter. Hence the reason to move jRPG development to handheld.

yes and also when the jrpg devs decided to finally bring some jrpg's to the home console's they always decided to bring them to THE WRONG CONSOLE'S

like i know supposedly Hironobu Sakaguchi at MistWalker wont release anything on a PlayStation platform as of this gen so far because he does not like Kaz Hirai but COME ON!!

Kaz and Hironobu need to hurry up and make up because his game's look pretty good

like Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon and Last Story(if it was HD-console developed) could have done SO MUCH better on ps3

i think if something like Lost Odyssey would have released on ps3 it could have pushed like 2.5 mill WW (if it released exclusive to ps3 that is)

of course im thinking sales-wise when i say all this because profit IS 1 of the reason's why these devs jumped to the handhelds



Xxain said:
brendude13 said:
Xxain said:
Talk about FF X on your walls this thread isnt the place

I'm talking with the creator of the thread :P

Nothing wrong with a slightly off topic conversation, as long as we keep it short.

I think we're done now anyway.



Fine ill get thread creator banned


LOL



axumblade said:
I thought Front Mission Evolved 3 came out on the PS3.....

Also, since counterstrike is going to support mouse/keyboard, I would love to see another Civilization on the PS3 supporting both. my computer sucks but I fucking love me some Civilization. XD


if you are talking about the Front Mission in the Strategy category then no, they are not the same game