Player1x3 said:
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No, you did not. If you had, you would've known that those links you provided are no good.
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| padib said: You can't be honest in saying that... The bible is clear, and the non-christian article I linked above even mentions it, that it's the jews and the gentiles together who crucified him... All the first believers were jewish! Even the scripture I provided testifies that: 18do not boast over those branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. (The root here being the jewish god-fearing people.) In no way does such a statement confirm anti-semitism in the bible given what I've told you this far... In other words, if they thought that 'Jews killed Jesus', they were acting on the true cause of their problem: 1) Human ignorance. Of course behind all this my belief is that Satan is the master architect of it all, but you would never believe me if I told you that. But at least you know. |
Actions speak louder than words. And the devil had nothing to do with it.
"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"
"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."
(The Voice of a Generation and Seece)
"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"
(pizzahut451)
Yay, no one said Paganism or Wicca! ...Well unless they forgot about it or just said all religions.
One cult (refuse to call it religion) I don't get is scientology. It was made up by a sci fi author who wanted to make a religion to become rich. What a bastard to take advantage of people. Sorry but no matter how "stupid" people are, it's still an ugly act to pull off. Only a selfish jerk would do such a thing.
My problem with it isn't so much that people believe in it, but how they steal from them and often break off families. I wonder how the hell it's even allowed/legal.
There might be some sub sects of certain religions I don't understand but it's not all that important.
| lolita said: Yay, no one said Paganism or Wicca! ...Well unless they forgot about it or just said all religions. One cult (refuse to call it religion) I don't get is scientology. It was made up by a sci fi author who wanted to make a religion to become rich. What a bastard to take advantage of people. Sorry but no matter how "stupid" people are, it's still an ugly act to pull off. Only a selfish jerk would do such a thing. My problem with it isn't so much that people believe in it, but how they steal from them and often break off families. I wonder how the hell it's even allowed/legal. There might be some sub sects of certain religions I don't understand but it's not all that important. |
Actually, I think wicca is one of the most easy to understand. It's kind of a divinity of science. People thought herbs had special magical properties, and in the modern world we know that they do have certain properties. The only difference is that we've come to understand that all matter is just property to be taken advantage of, there is no divinity. We know this because an evil man can make the same things a witch, or even a monkey can make as long as the materials and extraction are the same.
Without science and knowledge, these properties became godlike and mysterious, resulting in mythology from every religion since the dawn of time. Wicca is what that is, and sometimes, I think that science, that actual explanation of the world is utterly freakishly missing.
sapphi_snake said:
No, you did not. If you had, you would've known that those links you provided are no good. |
Honestly, I dont know why I even botherd. No matter what link I post, you would just dismiss them as usual, cuz I dont think anything can ever remove your huge delusional hatred for everything christian. That kind of attempt is out of human possability
| Player1x3 said: Honestly, I dont know why I even botherd. No matter what link I post, you would just dismiss them as usual, cuz I dont think anything can ever remove your huge delusional hatred for everything christian. That kind of attempt is out of human possability |
padib actually understood what I was telling him (he still didn't agree, or want to admit the truth, but he at least understood me). You appearently seem to be incapable of this, and since I have no interest in 'enlightening' you, I won't bother with further explanations.
"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"
"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."
(The Voice of a Generation and Seece)
"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"
(pizzahut451)
Glad to see that people can understand Wicca and Paganism~! I do like those and Buddhism. I like how in Wicca you apply a lot of spititual stuff from other religions that you like (ex. meditation). And there's no head, you're your own teacher and it makes sense, morally. "Do what you want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone (inc yourself)." Oh and you don't need to believe in God or any specific god/esse/s either. Personally I am a pantheist, although I do think humans can chose a figure to worship so that it's easier to understand or relate to for example, God Thor-I mean he's a guy with a frikkin' giant hammer that shoots lightning! How awesome is that!? I'd chose Freyja though, she has two giant cats! *love*
I don't quite get in Christianity is the trinity. God, Jesus and Holy Spirit... I never understood and it always kept me away from reading much about it. I always also thought that the way holy scriptures are written (no matter which religion), no wonder so many people interpret them differently! They're really hard to read and understand. You would have thought God would make it simple and clear so there's no confusion and people would follow things correctly. Not that clever I guess! :P (Just joking! If someone can explain, please do so.)
padib said:
I read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge and I don't see how they countered your argument. Player, take your time to find relevant counter-points. Mind you, I didn't have the chance to read the other link. The encyclical though was not related to that point he was making: "Catholics are responsable for the anit-jewish sentiment that existed in Germany and Europe as a whole. The Holocaust is basically the the culmination of the persecution of Jews that the Pope ordered in the Middle Ages." It would be a good point against one of the things he said earlier when his position was less clear: "the persecution of Jews (actually, the hatred of Jews is largely due to christianity, and while the Holocaust wasn't directly caused by christians, the unpopularity of the Jews was their doing, along with the unpopularity of gays, another persecuted group during the holocaust)." But even then it's followed by the limiting clarification "actually, the hatred of Jews is largely due to christianity, and while the Holocaust wasn't directly caused by christians, the unpopularity of the Jews was their doing". To be truthful though, and here is where I read up on this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_antisemitism#Expulsions_from_France_and_England), even this claim above is not completely fair. Anti-semitism was a sentiment shared by many societies and groups within societies. An example from my link above is royalty (motivated by greed). To blame it all on the ignorant Chritians of the time is very one-sided. |
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4191117
Maybe you read it more carefully and see what points i actualy adressed, especially the 2nd one.
You: to even suggest that catholicism caused this is totally ignorant of what actually happened. If anything, Hitler created the adoration of himself, which Christianity in any form would consider idolatry.
sapphi_snake: Catholics are responsable for the anit-jewish sentiment that existed in Germany and Europe (MEANING: CAtholics are responsible for the growth of anti semetisam in Germany and europe (I was only adressing the part about germany)
Me: Posts a link of a view of catholic church on german anti semetism
sapphi_snake: The Holocaust is basically the the culmination of the persecution of Jews that the Pope ordered in the Middle Ages. (Meaning: Holocaust is connected to midle ages persecution
Me: Posts a link that shows Holocaust had nothing to do with christinity
To be entirely honest I don't really get ANY religions. Not sure why people fight so violently for the right to believe in something which we have no proof for.
Faith is funny.
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| lolita said: Glad to see that people can understand Wicca and Paganism~! I do like those and Buddhism. I like how in Wicca you apply a lot of spititual stuff from other religions that you like (ex. meditation). And there's no head, you're your own teacher and it makes sense, morally. "Do what you want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone (inc yourself)." Oh and you don't need to believe in God or any specific god/esse/s either. Personally I am a pantheist, although I do think humans can chose a figure to worship so that it's easier to understand or relate to for example, God Thor-I mean he's a guy with a frikkin' giant hammer that shoots lightning! How awesome is that!? I'd chose Freyja though, she has two giant cats! *love* |
The christian doctorine of Trinity defines God as three divine persons. Father, (God) Son (Jesus Christ) and Holy Spirit (Faith). Father, son and Holy Spirit directly co existing in unity as co-equal and co-substantial ro of one being. The Trinity itself is considerd to be a mistery of christian faith.
In This doctorine, God exists as 3 divine persons or deities,, but is one God, meaning that God the son and God the Holy spirit have exactly the same nature of being like God the Father. Whatever atributed God the Father have, the other 2 divine deities have it as well. Thus, God the son and God the Holy Spirit are also eternal, omnipresent, infinitely wise, infinetly holy, infinetly loving, omniscient
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