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dsister on 31 May 2011
o_O.Q said:

he is responsible for what happened regardless of his intentions if the keys weren't distributed it wouldn't have happened... thats like me giving an ak to a maniac and telling him don't kill anybody and he shoots up a school maybe i didn't intend for him to shoot up the school but at the end of the day im indirectly responsible for what happened

btw one thing that no one seems to be talking about is why he distributed the keys in the first place if he truly wanted to stop the piracy and cheating why didn't he just keep releasing the custom firmware? the custom firmware that he said stops piracy

1. No... That's not how it works. My dad bought me a gun for my birthday, if I go out and shoot someone with it, is he responsible? No, I am. 

2. So other people can release their own custom firmware, perhaps? I don't think anyone knows... not till they develop a way to read people's minds 



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dsister on 31 May 2011
brendude13 said:

Now that's just crossing a line.

Forget it, burn him at the stake too.


It's a group.



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o_O.Q on 31 May 2011
vlad321 said:
LivingMetal said:
vlad321 said:
LivingMetal said:
vlad321 said:
PakChiuCheng said:

Admit it. Most of you who are happy that Sony are being hacked and encourage this behaviour, defending the hackers are just fanboys of your respective consoles (Xbox/Wii)

 

I just look at the profile of these Sony bashers and they are the Wii/Xbox people. What if your precious console gets hacked instead? You'll still encourage these hackers?


I am neither an xbox or a wii person. I am however anti root-kit person, and really anti anything that fucks with my consumer rights. Sony just has happened to excel at that.

 

Are there root kits on the PS3?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal


And this relates to the PS3 how...?  Besides, I'm pro-competition and anti-monopolistic.  Wasn't Microsoft found guilty of being monopolistic by the Department of Justice.  Oh, they were:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft

So if we believe in competition, why are we supporting Microsoft?  But realistically, I don't use petty excuses to bash a company.  But being consistent with your own stance, you really shouldn't support Microsoft unless you're pro-monopolistic.  Or even Nintendo for that matter.  Former Nintendo head Yamauchi treated 3rd party developers like dirt back during the N64 days.  So why are you here anyway since you don't support Sony , Microsoft, and Nintendo?  They're all bad.


Ok let's use our 3 brain cells we have. rootkig coems form Sony, which makes PS3. Oh WOW! TWO degrees of separatoin. Unbelieveable.


lol and you really believe that sony exclusively does these kinds of things? google sells your info to advertising companies, apple and google were accused recently of leaking info on your location, etc etc etc

the only solution i can give you is to stay away from these companies completely and build your own electronics



LivingMetal on 31 May 2011
vlad321 said:
LivingMetal said:
vlad321 said:
LivingMetal said:


And this relates to the PS3 how...?  Besides, I'm pro-competition and anti-monopolistic.  Wasn't Microsoft found guilty of being monopolistic by the Department of Justice.  Oh, they were:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft

So if we believe in competition, why are we supporting Microsoft?  But realistically, I don't use petty excuses to bash a company.  But being consistent with your own stance, you really shouldn't support Microsoft unless you're pro-monopolistic.  Or even Nintendo for that matter.  Former Nintendo head Yamauchi treated 3rd party developers like dirt back during the N64 days.  So why are you here anyway since you don't support Sony , Microsoft, and Nintendo?  They're all bad.


Ok let's use our 3 brain cells we have. rootkig coems form Sony, which makes PS3. Oh WOW! TWO degrees of separatoin. Unbelieveable.


And Microsoft was found guilty in court of being a monopoly who happens to make the Xbox 360.  Is that a reason why we shouldn't buy and enjoy an Xbox 360?


Did Microsoft compromise my PC?


Did they?  Why would I care and how would I know what Microsoft did to your stuff?  



o_O.Q on 31 May 2011
dsister said:
o_O.Q said:

he is responsible for what happened regardless of his intentions if the keys weren't distributed it wouldn't have happened... thats like me giving an ak to a maniac and telling him don't kill anybody and he shoots up a school maybe i didn't intend for him to shoot up the school but at the end of the day im indirectly responsible for what happened

btw one thing that no one seems to be talking about is why he distributed the keys in the first place if he truly wanted to stop the piracy and cheating why didn't he just keep releasing the custom firmware? the custom firmware that he said stops piracy

1. No... That's not how it works. My dad bought me a gun for my birthday, if I go out and shoot someone with it, is he responsible? No, I am. 

2. So other people can release their own custom firmware, perhaps? I don't think anyone knows... not till they develop a way to read people's minds 

1. well we have to agree to disagree had he not posted the keys none of this would have happened thats more than enough of a reason for me to blame him

2. yes its very curious isn't it



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FreeTalkLive on 31 May 2011

Of course, the company doesn't deserve to be destroyed.  Though, Sony has wronged everyone that bought a PS3 before Sony tried to ruin the experince.  At the very least, Sony should give everyone that was damaged $200.  Until Sony does that, I'm not going to feel sorry for Sony.  If you try to make life hard on your customers, if you promise things and then take them away, don't except me to care if people get mad and try to bring about justice.



 

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LivingMetal on 31 May 2011
o_O.Q said:
vlad321 said:
LivingMetal said:
vlad321 said:
LivingMetal said:
vlad321 said:
PakChiuCheng said:

Admit it. Most of you who are happy that Sony are being hacked and encourage this behaviour, defending the hackers are just fanboys of your respective consoles (Xbox/Wii)

 

I just look at the profile of these Sony bashers and they are the Wii/Xbox people. What if your precious console gets hacked instead? You'll still encourage these hackers?


I am neither an xbox or a wii person. I am however anti root-kit person, and really anti anything that fucks with my consumer rights. Sony just has happened to excel at that.

 

Are there root kits on the PS3?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal


And this relates to the PS3 how...?  Besides, I'm pro-competition and anti-monopolistic.  Wasn't Microsoft found guilty of being monopolistic by the Department of Justice.  Oh, they were:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft

So if we believe in competition, why are we supporting Microsoft?  But realistically, I don't use petty excuses to bash a company.  But being consistent with your own stance, you really shouldn't support Microsoft unless you're pro-monopolistic.  Or even Nintendo for that matter.  Former Nintendo head Yamauchi treated 3rd party developers like dirt back during the N64 days.  So why are you here anyway since you don't support Sony , Microsoft, and Nintendo?  They're all bad.


Ok let's use our 3 brain cells we have. rootkig coems form Sony, which makes PS3. Oh WOW! TWO degrees of separatoin. Unbelieveable.


lol and you really believe that sony exclusively does these kinds of things? google sells your info to advertising companies, apple and google were accused recently of leaking info on your location, etc etc etc

the only solution i can give you is to stay away from these companies completely and build your own electronics


These guys will find any excuse to throw out logic and throw things out of context when a reasonable discussion doesn't fuel their agenda.



vlad321 on 31 May 2011
LivingMetal said:
vlad321 said:
LivingMetal said:
vlad321 said:
LivingMetal said:


And this relates to the PS3 how...?  Besides, I'm pro-competition and anti-monopolistic.  Wasn't Microsoft found guilty of being monopolistic by the Department of Justice.  Oh, they were:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft

So if we believe in competition, why are we supporting Microsoft?  But realistically, I don't use petty excuses to bash a company.  But being consistent with your own stance, you really shouldn't support Microsoft unless you're pro-monopolistic.  Or even Nintendo for that matter.  Former Nintendo head Yamauchi treated 3rd party developers like dirt back during the N64 days.  So why are you here anyway since you don't support Sony , Microsoft, and Nintendo?  They're all bad.


Ok let's use our 3 brain cells we have. rootkig coems form Sony, which makes PS3. Oh WOW! TWO degrees of separatoin. Unbelieveable.


And Microsoft was found guilty in court of being a monopoly who happens to make the Xbox 360.  Is that a reason why we shouldn't buy and enjoy an Xbox 360?


Did Microsoft compromise my PC?


Did they?  Why would I care and how would I know what Microsoft did to your stuff?  

Being informed I guess. Then again I am not surprised given you didn't know about the rootkits. I suggest you do that before engaging in arguments pertaining to consumer rights.



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dsister on 31 May 2011
o_O.Q said:

1. well we have to agree to disagree had he not posted the keys none of this would have happened thats more than enough of a reason for me to blame him

2. yes its very curious isn't it


1. Yeah, we would have only had piracy from the USB dongles and cheating that is about the same level as it is now? Wouldn't you agree?

Off topic: Looking up all the stuff about the CoD hacks is pretty funny, and just goes to show how incompetent Blizzard really is. It goes from, "It's all Sony's fault, we can't patch it" to "We may stop the BO servers!" to "Hey, look here's a patch to fix everything" xD 



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o_O.Q on 31 May 2011
FreeTalkLive said:

Of course, the company doesn't deserve to be destroyed.  Though, Sony has wronged everyone that bought a PS3 before Sony tried to ruin the experince.  At the very least, Sony should give everyone that was damaged $200.  Until Sony does that, I'm not going to feel sorry for Sony.  If you try to make life hard on your customers, if you promise things and then take them away, don't except me to care if people get mad and try to bring about justice.


how did sony wrong you?